Kemperz21 65 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Thing is my dog I have now is spot on he is very fast turns well and anticipates the quarys next move a lot of the time i also love his temperament I would love one of his off spring after he Is laid up on the sofa when he gets old ( a few years yet) this is why I am thinking of somthing also fast to throw into the mix I would like a bitch a little taller than mine as he is only 20" tts I was thinking a whippet but would would want a big one like 22" tts maybe more this is why I keep thinking of the grey to add a bit of height and speed but I need to be able to use my choice of bitch in the field really not sure that's why I am asking for help deciding Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 now, my experience is fairly limited but i'm going to throw in my tuppence worth anyway! i've seen a few ex track dogs run quarry, and whilst they would all bust a gut and were absolutely fearless, this attitude added to blistering pace can create disaster! saying that though, i have seen them take fox no problems at all, and roe, and hares. most were short of wind, but one bloke i knew worked really hard on putting the right kind of distance/aerobic training into his bitch and although obviously nowhere near a saluki, her stamina was okay. i would like to see a proper coursing bred grey from 100 years ago, they were bred and got fit a lot different to todays track stuff and were in truth probably closer to some of our lurchers. whats the irish coursing stuff like? Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I would get a lurcher.. More chance of getting what you want. Succsess rate could be much less going with a pure grey.. But nothing guaranted with dogs. Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Get yourself a good purebred Greyhound and you'll kill more gear than with any other type of running dog.... BUT the problem (and its massive!), is finding yourself a good Greyhound, perhaps 1 in every 100 really makes the grade. i could list a whole load of problems but the best way to say it, is that i've seen more greyhounds dead, trying to work 'em than any other dog and a long time ago I gave up with 'em and realised why we have lurchers!! Quote Link to post
Kemperz21 65 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Get yourself a good purebred Greyhound and you'll kill more gear than with any other type of running dog.... BUT the problem (and its massive!), is finding yourself a good Greyhound, perhaps 1 in every 100 really makes the grade. i could list a whole load of problems but the best way to say it, is that i've seen more greyhounds dead, trying to work 'em than any other dog and a long time ago I gave up with 'em and realised why we have lurchers!! ok so what's the main difference ? Benefit to having a lurcher over a grey ? Quote Link to post
mark hill 1 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 i would get a Airedale f1 greyhound there the go .. got all u need in a hunting dog cheers Quote Link to post
Flacko 1,756 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 What about a grew Quote Link to post
Westy76 546 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Surely a Magyar agar would be the better option? Quote Link to post
keepdiggin 9,567 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 seen a couple jack in the field. Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 As above I'm looking at maybe getting a greyhound or a greyX in addition to my collie/grey xbull/whip I'm wondering if a pure grey has any applications in the field or will it be best to get a grey heavy lurcher ? If I want speed If I was you I'd be more inclined to get your current dog working and doing what you want rather than getting another dog in and thinking about breeding, learn to walk before you run. Quote Link to post
Ocset 91 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Surely a Magyar agar would be the better option? They're not as fast as a greyhound. A proper greyhound has decent feet, drive, wind, speed, speed and speed. They are no more reckless than any other running dog and aren't made of glass. People shouldn't base their judgement on ex racers that they've seen run. 1 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Always fancied a pup myself,bring it up like a lurcher get it out a lot as a pup old head on young shoulders and all that,never have though because it's highly likely it would end in tears. Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 when I was a young lad, a few years back, The Scottish national coursing was held, near were I lived, I knew a couple of trainers, of Coursing greyhounds, at first they were a little sceptical towards me, I said to one trainer I will show my dog judge him on his fitness and condition, I was after a dog that was guilty of jumping the hedge or fences, when on a course, which is total taboo, when coursing under rules, He gifted the said dog to me, clearly stated The dog did not come from his kennels, The dog was a real one, SPEED, STAMINA,and skill, when he got behind his Hare, he got right down low to the ground, and worked the Hare from his shoulders, the Hare could neither turn right or left, and strike was a master piece, I used to run, him 2 to 3 times a week, one fault with him, he liked a taste of there blood, Another one, i Had could jump like a stag, stamina, he could out run any Lurcher, (((( but he used to run all over his Hares, for some reason he was a very poor striker, but what Stamina, and speed he had, and a big Red greyhound, he was good for 2 Hares out of three runs, that was his Tank, empty after 3 runs, but they were great to see and watch, was not much of a jumper, he had a Sad end he was carrying his Hare back to me, come to this five bar wooden gate, jumped like a Kangaroo, and his back leg went through the top rail, of the gate, I run across to him, ((( I could run then)) lifted him of the gate his leg was smashed above the stifle, I must add that breed of greyhound, THE LANDED GENTRY,HAD BEEN BREEDING FOR AT LEAST 100 YEARS AND MORE, there was great Rivalry, between those people, ((( it was the honour and glory of winning, that great prize, there coursing compitition, Sadly that strain of breed, has gone, those dogs were treated like royalty, fed on the best, excersized to be in peak condition, and running on the very best of Land,coursing the greatest little warrior of all The Brown Hare, I was very lucky I witnessed, some great sport, saw some very good dogs, Lurchers,and greys, and owned a couple myself, 2 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Love the idea of seeing a good pure grey run. But after having a whippet. I'd have to say no thank you! It''d just be a bigger version of the dog I have now. . . . . with even MORE bits to break Quote Link to post
Westy76 546 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Surely a Magyar agar would be the better option?They're not as fast as a greyhound. A proper greyhound has decent feet, drive, wind, speed, speed and speed. They are no more reckless than any other running dog and aren't made of glass. People shouldn't base their judgement on ex racers that they've seen run. From what I've read so can't base it on me witnessing it,they've run them against pure greys and fairly beat them?As I said I've never seen one in the flesh but only what I've read. Quote Link to post
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