Malt 379 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street??If me or you pushed someone over in the street without provocation and they ended up dead, we'd be up on a charge of manslaughter.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,718 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 On another note, should his wife get a seat in the house of Lords ?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,939 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street?? charged with murder if he died police admitted it was unlawfull or maybe manslaughter and get the time that holds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street??If me or you pushed someone over in the street without provocation and they ended up dead, we'd be up on a charge of manslaughter.. Ever pushed anyone mate, punched somebody in the puss?? Whether they started it or not? Things happen and this was in my eyes a tragic accident. I'm sure if the man could change what he did he would and if the guy that died could change his route he would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,268 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 what would of happened if he pushed the cop and he fell and died Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,939 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 what would of happened if he pushed the cop and he fell and died he would have been banged up for a lot of years that's for sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street?? and causing his death --in the eyes of the law -what would the outcome be if it was 2 lads outside a night club ? .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street?? charged with murder if he died police admitted it was unlawfull or maybe manslaughter and get the time that holds How many doorman have you seen be heavy handed? Yet they get off with it because its part and parcel off there job. Similar instance wi the man that died. Ill ask you mate since JB side stepped it.. Would you be saying this if it was an anti demonstration or would you be glad the police were cracking heads?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,939 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street??charged with murder if he died police admitted it was unlawfull or maybe manslaughter and get the time that holds How many doorman have you seen be heavy handed? Yet they get off with it because its part and parcel off there job. Similar instance wi the man that died. Ill ask you mate since JB side stepped it.. Would you be saying this if it was an anti demonstration or would you be glad the police were cracking heads?? its about the fact that copper was a bully he fkd up big time the old boy had his hands in his pocket he was no threat .. could have easly removed him without the need for a push it served no purpose and the old boy died the copper who did it was well out of order for his actions he got away fkn lightly he should have got time for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street?? and causing his death --in the eyes of the law -what would the outcome be if it was 2 lads outside a night club ? ....Lad I know was working away a few years back, he was out with a workmate on the beer and this workmate was being a pissed up arse trying to start shit with a load of blokes while they were waiting in line at a kebab house. Faced with a kicking off a load of blokes because his mate couldn't hold his beer and wouldn't pack it in when asked too, this lad give the other one a friendly little jab to get him to shut up. Pissed bloke hit the deck, fractured his skull, died and the lad was convicted of manslaughter and given a suspended sentence.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I get all the boot on other foot crack but you cannot say that this guy had to be there, he could have avoided it, rodded the cops off and sadly came off worse, the fact is he acted like a dick and with the cops already heightened got a shoving over for his troubles , as lab has said , that's the only sad thing here, he brought it all on himself Are you on a wind up? You cannot be serious. So what if he did give the police some lip, he obviously got told to dissapear and was in the proccess of doing so when the hard nut pushed him to the ground and with his hands in his pockets could not break the fall. Unlawfull killing, manslaughter call it what you will. The fact is if he had not been pushed he would be alive today. TC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street??charged with murder if he died police admitted it was unlawfull or maybe manslaughter and get the time that holds How many doorman have you seen be heavy handed? Yet they get off with it because its part and parcel off there job. Similar instance wi the man that died. Ill ask you mate since JB side stepped it.. Would you be saying this if it was an anti demonstration or would you be glad the police were cracking heads?? I didn't side step it, the police should use reasonable force whether they be anti's poll tax rioters whatever, that guy was posing no threat lab. The police have admitted it was unlawful and he's been sacked and now he should face charges for it imo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street??charged with murder if he died police admitted it was unlawfull or maybe manslaughter and get the time that holds How many doorman have you seen be heavy handed? Yet they get off with it because its part and parcel off there job. Similar instance wi the man that died. Ill ask you mate since JB side stepped it.. Would you be saying this if it was an anti demonstration or would you be glad the police were cracking heads?? its about the fact that copper was a bully he fkd up big time the old boy had his hands in his pocket he was no threat .. could have easly removed him without the need for a push it served no purpose and the old boy died the copper who did it was well out of order for his actions he got away fkn lightly he should have got time for it Well I'm not a police hater and I look at everything as a neutral and if you can kick f**k out of someone or stab someone with intent on seriously hurting them and avoid jail then I don't think you should go to jail for a very unfortunate accident. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,939 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 So what would you lads say would be a worth while punishment for pushing someone over in the street??charged with murder if he died police admitted it was unlawfull or maybe manslaughter and get the time that holds How many doorman have you seen be heavy handed? Yet they get off with it because its part and parcel off there job. Similar instance wi the man that died. Ill ask you mate since JB side stepped it.. Would you be saying this if it was an anti demonstration or would you be glad the police were cracking heads?? its about the fact that copper was a bully he fkd up big time the old boy had his hands in his pocket he was no threat .. could have easly removed him without the need for a push it served no purpose and the old boy died the copper who did it was well out of order for his actions he got away fkn lightly he should have got time for it Well I'm not a police hater and I look at everything as a neutral and if you can kick f**k out of someone or stab someone with intent on seriously hurting them and avoid jail then I don't think you should go to jail for a very unfortunate accident. if the evidence goes to a court of law it will be decided there .. but I guess in this case it will be brushed under the carpet the copper will disappear with a new name maybe mr smith and the evidence will get lost Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 im not a police hater either,but i do firmly believe in if they break the law they enforce everyday,then should be subjected to the same punishments. i worked the doors for many years mate,and was charged/fined a cpl times,and i accepted that,and if i had thrown some c**t down stairs and he had been killed,id have expected jail. we certainly didnt get any special favours from the cops.quite the opposite in fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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