Nigel Farage Talks More Sense Than All The Other Prats

[twobob 1,499]

gnasher your right in what your saying it would be a good question for someone to ask nigel farage and see what his response was i dont think there ever has/will be a political party anybody would agree onehundred percent with

[reaper6 84]

Been a Labour voter all my life......UKIP is the way forward now

[Wildling 520]

gnasher your right in what your saying it would be a good question for someone to ask nigel farage and see what his response was i dont think there ever has/will be a political party anybody would agree onehundred percent with

 

Agreed you may not like some of the policies but I bet most are reasonable to us and they are at least open about the membership policies.

[DIDO.1 22,856]

I'm a nationalist, a racial nationalist, and like most I have, at times completely lost it with what has been happening to our country. At times iv done and said things that would if I was a UKIP Councillor compromise my position. I would love to stand for UKIP, and know I would do a fantastic job BUT unfortunatly I cant so I will but all my energy into supporting them that can. Im not bitter just a realist....

[scothunter 12,609]

yea i think there a few of us admire nigel,and have hope for Ukip,but were better of voting and supporting.rather than sully the name of ukip by past things you may or may not have done.that would only give the opposition a means to brand the party neo nazis (a name i actually despise)why give them the opportunity support ukip spread the word dont have to actually have to be a card carrying member,

[WILF 49,532]

Old " Call me Dave" promised away another 375 million quid of OUR money the weekend to fight world hunger !!!........I bet we all feel better about that today don't we !!

[paulus 26]

Old " Call me Dave" promised away another 375 million quid of OUR money the weekend to fight world hunger !!!........I bet we all feel better about that today don't we !!

Austerity old chap and don't forget were all in this together

[WILF 49,532]

 

Loud and clear Gnasher but IMHO allowing anybody who has had an association with the BNP in at a time when you are trying to make a sensible case about immigration would be like rolling up at a ba mitzvah with a tray of bacon rolls.......the party would be over

Image matters and what's more it works, hence we had Blair taking liberties for years but he could get away with it because it was all carefully stage managed

Blokes like us don't really understand it but its a fact none the less

Nobody cares about the NF as they have been off the radar so long they don't matter

 

Wilf its either policy or its not..............if a party makes such a strong stand as to FORBID membership of people from former extremist organisations.....but then allows somebody from a former extremist organisation to not only be a member but to actually stand as a candidate ......makes their policy not worth the paper its written on.....and naturally throws into question any other strong policies they might have as possibly being treated with the same contempt that one can be.

Now im no politician and your right blokes like us dont really understand enough about the whole workings of politics......but we understand human nature and can smell bullshit in any language.

I will be straight with you mate, I know a few lads who support the BNP and they are just normal lads but the leadership and the face of the BNP are a bunch of f***ing clowns

That pillsbury dough boy look-a-like Nick Griifin is a complete f***ing prat and you would tell most of his entourage to f**k right off out of it if you had to spend more than 2 minutes in their company

 

Personally, I am glad that something I support strongly like UKIP has nothing to do with any of it, it's not fair on the ordinary bloke in the street members or ex members I will agree, but personally I wouldn't want to touch anything associated with the BNP with a barge pole

 

Nick Griffin is no Tom Metzger I will grant you.....and Tom talked out of his arse enough for anybody

 

Years ago, my old mans doctors son ( who was also a doctor and probably still is) was a top boy in the NF.......the bloke was educated upto his eyeballs and could talk sensible but that's not the face of the BNP

 

Sometimes, right isn't always the same as fair mate

Edited June 10, 2013 by WILF

[gnasher16 31,178]

 

That ol chestnut eh ......................if in doubt....brush it under the f****n carpet and hope it go,s away .................for a newly formed political party who we,re all hoping to hang our hat on thats desperately craving a squeaky clean image......................its a massive shot in the foot from where im sitting.

 

UKIP

Haven't squandered any money or let in loads of migrants, you certainly couldn't look at the

Tory

Labour

Lib-dem

Party's and say that !

 

If you cant answer my question mate.. ......you dont need to have a cheer and a dance you can just say " i dont know "

[Nik_B 3,791]

 

 

Loud and clear Gnasher but IMHO allowing anybody who has had an association with the BNP in at a time when you are trying to make a sensible case about immigration would be like rolling up at a ba mitzvah with a tray of bacon rolls.......the party would be over

Image matters and what's more it works, hence we had Blair taking liberties for years but he could get away with it because it was all carefully stage managed

Blokes like us don't really understand it but its a fact none the less

Nobody cares about the NF as they have been off the radar so long they don't matter

Wilf its either policy or its not..............if a party makes such a strong stand as to FORBID membership of people from former extremist organisations.....but then allows somebody from a former extremist organisation to not only be a member but to actually stand as a candidate ......makes their policy not worth the paper its written on.....and naturally throws into question any other strong policies they might have as possibly being treated with the same contempt that one can be.

Now im no politician and your right blokes like us dont really understand enough about the whole workings of politics......but we understand human nature and can smell bullshit in any language.

I will be straight with you mate, I know a few lads who support the BNP and they are just normal lads but the leadership and the face of the BNP are a bunch of f*****g clowns

That pillsbury dough boy look-a-like Nick Griifin is a complete f*****g prat and you would tell most of his entourage to f**k right off out of it if you had to spend more than 2 minutes in their company

 

Personally, I am glad that something I support strongly like UKIP has nothing to do with any of it, it's not fair on the ordinary bloke in the street members or ex members I will agree, but personally I wouldn't want to touch anything associated with the BNP with a barge pole

 

Nick Griffin is no Tom Metzger I will grant you.....and Tom talked out of his arse enough for anybody

 

Years ago, my old mans doctors son ( who was also a doctor and probably still is) was a top boy in the NF.......the bloke was educated upto his eyeballs and could talk sensible but that's not the face of the BNP

 

Sometimes, right isn't always the same as fair mate

 

 

You hit the nail on the head

 

The utter shite Griffin came out with on question time about radio transcripts etc regarding his ideas about the holocaust ended any chance of me voting for them again...at the time the BNP was the only anti immigration that stood a chance, it was doing well as it's backing was mainly coming from Labour seats but he fell right in to the most obvious trap because he is a complete fuckwit. People who voted BNP don't give a crap about Zionist conspiracy theories they care that their country is being turned in to a third world cess pit and want control on immigration and control of our own destiny.

 

What I hope for now is that UKIP start to expand it's ideas to appeal to people across the board i.e. working class and middle class rather than just appeal to one group if they can get that right then they could cause a huge shock in 2015. the media is unfairly telling the whole country that UKIP is purely made up from disgruntled Conservative voters which is complete bollocks they take votes from all parties but most significantly they pick up votes from people who've never voted before.

 

Next year is the big one because if they can make similar gains in the local elections in Lib Dem and Labour areas then things will get interesting in the general elections. also they are very likely to come first place in the European Elections next year.

 

[gnasher16 31,178]

I'm a nationalist, a racial nationalist, and like most I have, at times completely lost it with what has been happening to our country. At times iv done and said things that would if I was a UKIP Councillor compromise my position. I would love to stand for UKIP, and know I would do a fantastic job BUT unfortunatly I cant so I will but all my energy into supporting them that can. Im not bitter just a realist....

Im in total agreement.....its almost a case of " if you cant count to 100.....then just count as high as you can " !!............On certain subjects Ukip are as close to my ideals as any realistic party with a chance could be.................BUT.....I find the whole hypocrisy of this one specific point worrying in as much as common sense tells any man that when you uncover 1 lie your likely to uncover others...............When a man or indeed a whole party are dishonest on 1 issue how long is it until they are like a rat in a corner on other issues ?

And lets have it right.......its prejudice at the highest level......Ukip is only prejudiced against far right organisations......you can be as far left as you like,you can be a former member of an extreme Islamic group,an extreme Muslim and still be accepted as a member of Ukip.......it seems this dissasociation from the BNP gives them a slight bit of respectability ....................some would call that basic bullshit !

Apparently ALL Ukip candidates and office bearers etc had to sign declarations confirming they had no previous assocaitions with extreme political groups......so how is a fat sloppy former screw from the Scrubs and former National Front branch organiser now standing as a Ukip candidate in council elections ?.............its not a difficult question that for me throws into question everything the party stands for...........unless of course your happy to hide from the truth and ride along with this trendy new club folk cant seem to wait to get behind.

Not having a pop at anyone on here by the way.............just tired of hearing folk every day who think they see a big shining beacon of light in the distance and start giving it all the " tell all your friends " caper without first questioning the basic character of the people we,re putting hope in.

[WILF 49,532]

You are of course bang on in everything you say pal, but if unfairly being bigoted towards ex BNP members is the price of getting rid of at least some of the 640 odd showers of shit currently running up a large bar tab in Westminster then it's a price well worth paying IMHO

 

The means justifies the end.

 

Sure there will be dishonest monkeys in UKIP, sure a good few will only be in it for themselves, sure if they ever got any level of serious office they would break promises.......it's always been the same and there's no reason for it to change

 

BUT.......I would willingly give old Nigel a chance over the current bunch of career traitors, no questions asked.

The current political elite maybe a bunch of clowns from where we are standing but don't under estimate them.....they went to the best schools in the land......removed from reality they may but stupid they most certainly are not.

( you may have read Tony Blairs biography, it's a real eye opener and you have to respect your enemy and he certainly got mine, he planned his complete 13 years in office and the years leading upto it 5 years before any of it actually happened, chapter and verse mate down to the finest detail)........that is one clever f****r

 

Any connection to far right groups would get used as a very large stick to beat UKIP to death with, these people are masters at the game make no mistake.

They want to hemogenise ( spel ?) us out of existence and so guarantee themselves power for ever with the immigrant, state dependant vote.......we are fighting for our existence and the closest shot we have is UKIP

 

If they feel they can get away with a couple of shady characters then so what, but they absolutely would not get away with mass inclusion.......that may leave a bitter taste of dishonesty but bollocks to it, I for one am prepared to swallow it rather than keep getting bent over by the current lot

Edited June 10, 2013 by WILF

[scothunter 12,609]

I can see gnashers concern,but we have to give the man chance.ill be the first to condem him if he just becomes like the other c**ts.i see why ukip are doing what they are doing,and i have said the same thing on numerous occasions. need to distance yourself from the old foot soldiers,and as for the current far right supporters.well you only need to listen to some of them in the edl to know if ever they were given prime time viewing to air there support of UKIP,you just know folk would run a f*****g mile.

[Nik_B 3,791]

For me it's less about giving anyone a chance, I genuinely fear for my kids future if we carry on any longer. There's already a million kids unemployed in the UK granted they might be useless but so what...most young kids are useless but it's good to have a shortage in the Labour market. They get forced in to working and the employers get forced into employing them, everyone wins and unemployment amongst the young could be completely stamped out. Under Labour they were better of to be on the dole and given no incentive to get out there and work, I'm 40 and when I was a kid you took badly paid jobs, hated them but it made you want to work harder so you didn't have to do that crap for life. Nowadays they're allowed to fester in nasty council flats, the girls pumping out kids and the lads doing god knows what.

 

For me it all starts with getting out of the EU, close the borders, force people in to work and we will reap the benefits.

 

I'd like to see the return of grammar schools so that kids from poorer backgrounds who are bright can get a chance at going further, I'd like to see kids who are less academic not being taken for fools and tricked in to doing bullshit degrees which are worth less than my toilet paper and being trapped to a life of debt before they've grown up.

 

One thing is for sure Lib/Lab/Con are basically the same and a vote for any of them is more of the same. The political elite in the Uk don't know about the real world, most of them have never had a real job and they don't give a crap about us.

[WILF 49,532]

For me it's less about giving anyone a chance, I genuinely fear for my kids future if we carry on any longer. There's already a million kids unemployed in the UK granted they might be useless but so what...most young kids are useless but it's good to have a shortage in the Labour market. They get forced in to working and the employers get forced into employing them, everyone wins and unemployment amongst the young could be completely stamped out. Under Labour they were better of to be on the dole and given no incentive to get out there and work, I'm 40 and when I was a kid you took badly paid jobs, hated them but it made you want to work harder so you didn't have to do that crap for life. Nowadays they're allowed to fester in nasty council flats, the girls pumping out kids and the lads doing god knows what.

 

For me it all starts with getting out of the EU, close the borders, force people in to work and we will reap the benefits.

 

I'd like to see the return of grammar schools so that kids from poorer backgrounds who are bright can get a chance at going further, I'd like to see kids who are less academic not being taken for fools and tricked in to doing bullshit degrees which are worth less than my toilet paper and being trapped to a life of debt before they've grown up.

 

One thing is for sure Lib/Lab/Con are basically the same and a vote for any of them is more of the same. The political elite in the Uk don't know about the real world, most of them have never had a real job and they don't give a crap about us.

Fantastic post matey and bang on the nail as far as I am concerned