Phil Lloyd 10,736 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Interesting comments,.well,..definitely for those of us, that have a passion for the lurcher anyway.... This is a massive subject, and it is one that has been doing the rounds, since I was a wee nipper... Anyway,..Cyber Talk is cheap,..and,.although, I am a dumb old fecker, I've finaly twigged on,..after several years of pointless 'bish/bash,.. that, any sensible debate is destined to go tits up,.sooner, rather than later,...however,.. ....there was a time, long ago,..when we used greyhounds locally,.to undertake a certain task,..and they were plenty good enough to fill the van,..several vans in fact...I even raised a Greyhound from six weeks of age and used her as a roustabout lurcher,..and my secret was,..I never told her, that she was not one All the best to ALL crossbreeds,...regards, CHALKWARREN... Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Jesus suffering kranky, we are going round in circles here. You never mentioned anything about ex track dogs in your original post so how can you be right? You just belittled everyone who slates the dog as not seeing one in the field when clearly we have. It took a more intelligent man than you to bring in the ex racers and your now wanting credit for it? Begs belief that. Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,725 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I used to go out regular with a pure grey, brought up and trained and entered same as a lurcher, she took the full spectrum of game in her time. Only problem was her feet she would smash her toes regular, she would smash her feet up but still keep running with toes pointing in all directions lol. A real good bitch that was killed doing her job, a real pity has she was a dog for all jobs, granted she wasn't blessed with attributes that a lurcher has but she will always stick in my mind. 1 Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Pmsl chalky, you have that down to a fine art..... Say so much but yet so little ....... How many greyhounds won the forley Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 The use of pastoral dogs to produce lurchers goes back to the times when the common man couldn't own any dog above terrier size unless it was used for herding/droving. Put a rough coat over a longdog and call it a herding dog. No one's any the wiser and your dog has the speed to take game without falling foul of the law. People have followed on from this and added their own choice of dogs to the mix depending on the work they would see, the fashion at the time and, in some cases, which pups would sell for the most. It's surprising the amount of people that can give an opinion on pure greyhounds in the field when so few are used. I've worked greys and by reading from the replies I can tell who's actually seen one work and who's just repeating nonsense they've heard down the pub. They're not made of glass, their feet are no worse than a lot of bull x's. this notion that they run at 40mph straight into the nearest obstacle is ridiculous and if true, would mean that the greyhound would be on the endangered species list. Those that are given the chance to run in the field have no problem turning either and their skin, whilst thin, isn't made of tissue. Before the Internet, you had to just believe in what you saw. Sure there were always tall tales of dogs entering a field and killing 5 hares before returning to their owners side ready to run again and people have always tried to say that beddy whippets could pull fallow bucks, tigers, rhinos, etc but those that were actually out doing a bit never took much notice of these stories. When I was younger a lot of the coursing boys still used pure greys and, as a result, there were plenty about lamping and mooching. They're not without their faults, but then again which type of running dog is fault free? Try and see a decent one work for yourself, I know that could prove difficult for a lot of people but until you do, don't fall into the trap of slagging them off just to try and fit in with the other boys. You may find that the other boys are full of it and aren't allowed out on their own after dark. Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Just incase you've forget the pish you wrote kranky, read your post above and show me where you define ex track dogs....... Ill hold my breath big boy Quote Link to post
riohog 5,621 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 pure greys are just a accident waiting to happen in the field . .. put abit of sheepdog . or terrier in them and you got a different bit of kit alltogether Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Exactly riohog, it's like folk saying whippets are best for ferreting Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,638 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Love to take one on as a pup...................... but I wouldn't because I would always be thinking that a purpose bred lurcher would be a better option. A lot of time goes into a pup, I want the best pup I can get, not an experiment. Also I don't know if the temperament/personality would be different but ex track dogs seem to be a bit sparse between the ears. My only experience is with ex track dogs and there's no way I would want one of them. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,621 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Love to take one on as a pup...................... but I wouldn't because I would always be thinking that a purpose bred lurcher would be a better option. A lot of time goes into a pup, I want the best pup I can get, not an experiment. Also I don't know if the temperament/personality would be different but ex track dogs seem to be a bit sparse between the ears. My only experience is with ex track dogs and there's no way I would want one of them. all greys are a bit sparce between the ears .apart from the usuall sh..t feet you may aswell run them blindfolded cos for sure they will run into something!!!!. Quote Link to post
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 we should get a thl racer lol Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Aye scothunter or a mountain bike Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,638 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Love to take one on as a pup...................... but I wouldn't because I would always be thinking that a purpose bred lurcher would be a better option. A lot of time goes into a pup, I want the best pup I can get, not an experiment. Also I don't know if the temperament/personality would be different but ex track dogs seem to be a bit sparse between the ears. My only experience is with ex track dogs and there's no way I would want one of them. all greys are a bit sparce between the ears .apart from the usuall sh..t feet you may aswell run them blindfolded cos for sure they will run into something!!!!. I was walking my folks ex racer probably 5 years ago now and the weather was particularly shitty which caused the hares to drop into some more sheltered ground where they NEVER usually are............... One jumped up followed by 32kgs of adrenaline injected greyhound! Over the brow of the hill and straight into a barbed fence, busting the fence and leaving a trail of blood from where she fell to where she was now stood in shock. That bitch nearly died from blood loss that day! f**k running an ex track dog! They haven't the sense in the field understandably and have very little character about them away from it. A pup would be interesting but I'm not inclined to take the chance when a purpose bred lurcher would in all probability fair me better. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,621 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Love to take one on as a pup...................... but I wouldn't because I would always be thinking that a purpose bred lurcher would be a better option. A lot of time goes into a pup, I want the best pup I can get, not an experiment. Also I don't know if the temperament/personality would be different but ex track dogs seem to be a bit sparse between the ears. My only experience is with ex track dogs and there's no way I would want one of them. all greys are a bit sparce between the ears .apart from the usuall sh..t feet you may aswell run them blindfolded cos for sure they will run into something!!!!. I was walking my folks ex racer probably 5 years ago now and the weather was particularly shitty which caused the hares to drop into some more sheltered ground where they NEVER usually are............... One jumped up followed by 32kgs of adrenaline injected greyhound! Over the brow of the hill and straight into a barbed fence, busting the fence and leaving a trail of blood from where she fell to where she was now stood in shock. That bitch nearly died from blood loss that day! f**k running an ex track dog! They haven't the sense in the field understandably and have very little character about them away from it. A pup would be interesting but I'm not inclined to take the chance when a purpose bred lurcher would in all probability fair me better. for sure that sums it up they aint the smartest of dogs Quote Link to post
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 i had an ex track bitch which i took out lamping by feck she was a missile but the rabbi turned sharp at the sheepwire fence and my ghound bounced of it lololol cut her head but for temperment she was 1st class great with terriers n kids too and was good recall but due to only lack of experience in the field she was a danger to herself and livestock. would i have anothr fcuk yes i would indeed but id prefare a pup to show the way from a yong age and break it to stock. i really like the greyhounds Quote Link to post
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