johnpop 3 Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Searched high and low for eggs just no sign of anything they have a good sized area but all fenced off as there on allotment. Defiantly young birds have bought chickens from this guy before and they were excellent he is a good bloke. Never used grit as was told if they are outside they get what they need from the ground? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3175darren 1,102 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Searched high and low for eggs just no sign of anything they have a good sized area but all fenced off as there on allotment. Defiantly young birds have bought chickens from this guy before and they were excellent he is a good bloke. Never used grit as was told if they are outside they get what they need from the ground? mine have the 9 acre field at the back to roam freely and I dont get the shell quality without grit,I have always used grit it helps them grind the corn up in the crop for digestion,if your ground has had chickens on before or for a while, there may not be enough,its not expensive as such,and mine get though a bag a year, I feed chicken corn not layers pellets,I am not sure I think the pellets contain some grit,but not sure never use ematb Darren Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnpop 3 Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Had chickens in the same spot for about 5 year now and never had any problems till I got the new 4this year but will defiantly try the grit and fingers crossed. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3175darren 1,102 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Had chickens in the same spot for about 5 year now and never had any problems till I got the new 4this year but will defiantly try the grit and fingers crossed. Cheers Good luck mate hope it works for you, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogsbollocks58 36 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 mr fox taking eggs and not chickens i think he means scaring them? if they are stressed they wont lay your right there mate don,t like laying when mr fox is about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coonboy 160 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Have they been malting mine have and I noticed a drop in eggs from 2 aday to none if it carries on they be in the oven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnpop 3 Posted August 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Think a couple of the older hens are in moult but the young birds seem fine and were bought from a good farmer, don't wanna kill them just cost me nearly 50 notes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 John if the younger 1's were bought 3 months ago and were pol then that means there still this years birds so they won't moult untill next year anyway i'd still try putting a egg in 1 of the nest boxes and if it disapears you at least know there laying all you have to do it find out whats taking em.I was always told to blow a egg out and fill it with creosote for egg eating hens 1 they don't like the taste and should stop em. 2 it stains the beak and you'll know who the egg eater is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnpop 3 Posted August 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Have placed two eggs in the hut, been there for 3 days now and nothing has had them away. Been told it may be the stress off mixing them but through they would of settled down by now. I also have a cockeral running with them would that have anything to do with it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 I wouldn't say the cockeral would not em off lay if anything if he's treading em it should spur em on to lay.I know a lad who bought 60 pl pullets to sell the eggs at his gate he had em on kibbled maize and he hardley got a egg as soon as he put em on layers pellets they come flying out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnpop 3 Posted August 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 All I ever feed is the pellets. Had ten chickens before these lot and they popped them out like a machine till old age hit them but these things don't wanna na Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnpop 3 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I have mixed the breeds. I have put two black rocks and two leg bars with the 5 older brown hens. Don't suppose ya get racist chickens do ya? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 I always feed oyster shell and grit all the time: put it in separate heavy bowls so the chickens can't scratch it out. You'll see how much they take if you feed it separately. Also, if the bird is deficient in any sort of minerals that can put them into a long moult: if they're not getting everything they need the moult takes a long time and a lot out of the bird. Make sure they get plenty of fresh greens too: grass, spinach beet etc etc. Plus, are they getting enough water? Also, free range birds use a lot more energy scratting about: they may need more protein. Mine love Vitalin: dog food, and tear into any meat I throw them: bits of rabbit carcase that the ferrets have finished with, the odd rack of lamb LOL Also, have you noticed any birds getting bullied? Stress can put them off lay. Do they have enough nest boxes dotted around the place? Some birds, especially the new ones, may not feel comfortable laying where your nest boxes are situated. Are the nest boxes dark and 'safe'? I usually offer a selection of nest boxes tucked away in dark corners: lay a piece of board over a small box with an opening just big enough for the bird to get into. I've often found with free range birds that you think they've stopped laying, and suddenly you find a whole heap of eggs in the middle of a patch of stinging nettles, or in a seemingly impossible heap of rubbish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jezza 126 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 put a good cock in there, that should make them a bit happier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnpop 3 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Will start adding more variety to these diet. Was always told watch what ya give them when there on layers pellets coz everything they need is in that and extra foods can interfere with the balances. Some of the old birds do still attack the new birds but not in a way I would think would cause them stress. Is it worth separating the old from the new Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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