Ireland RISE to stage RALLY at BIRR GAME FAIR

[neil cooney 10,416]

RISE is a campaign made up of various fieldsports organisations in Ireland.

As to their relationship with the IWTF ?

Some of these organisations have spoke to the IWTF and some have given the IWTF advice.

These organisations have been very helpfull to the IWTF and have played a big part in making us what we are today, which is amazing after only a few weeks.

So in my opinion we owe RISE and should be there to support the rally.

After all it is a rally that's supporting ALL fieldsports.

[sammcc 229]

Just hunt I understand we're you and many others are coming from,but on our trips to London profits were made by either flight,ferries ,coaches ,digs for those that stayed over and catering firms.

I am sure you will agree that our trips did not come cheep,but did we give a dam NO because we were fighting the fight.

I will be at Birr again to show my support to a worthy cause the RISE rally hope to meet you there.

Yours in sport Sam.

[neil cooney 10,416]

Don't worry FF you wont be taken for an ol' idiot.

With your way of thinking, we'll leave that up to yourself.

Now now Neil thats no way for a chairman of a country wide organisation to be

talking to people ,Ferret Features could be a member .

 

The man or woman has a point ,we never had to pay into a RISE rally before

His words, not mine.

[AlbertJ 569]

I think this and other threads demonstrate that some of the biggest threats to country sports come from within rather than without.

 

RISE asked us could they hold a rally at the fair in order to demonstrate without a shadow of a doubt the support they have and can mobilise within the rural and country sports community.My colleagues and I were delighted to oblige as we are fully in support of the RISE campaign and we are all committed to the defence and promotion of all legal country sports and felt this would help unify the country sports community. We also felt that we were doing something positive for ALL country sports by giving RISE access to not only our audience of committed country sports people but also to a large and largely sympathetic family audience - in short the sort of people who we will need to sway to our side in the battles to come.

 

The last thing on our mind was that we would be getting extra receipts at the gate - quite honestly I have been stunned by this accusation and by the mindset of people who would put it forward. I have made SMCC an offer for his bus run of FREE tickets to sell on behalf of the IWTF and FF and JH for FREE admission if they simply want to support RISE and not the fair. I am sure Sam will try his best to take advantage of this - I will report back on FF &JH's uptake. If they do they will find that while I fight my corner in an arguement I don't hold a grudge and I am 100% for country sports unity and not internecine bickering.

 

Albertj

Edited August 14, 2012 by AlbertJ

[just hunt 69]

Don't worry FF you wont be taken for an ol' idiot.

With your way of thinking, we'll leave that up to yourself.

Now now Neil thats no way for a chairman of a country wide organisation to be

talking to people ,Ferret Features could be a member .

 

The man or woman has a point ,we never had to pay into a RISE rally before

His words, not mine.

NEIL will you please cop on to yourself .Your doing more harm than good now

I will leave it at that.

 

P.S Albert thanks but no thanks

Edited August 14, 2012 by just hunt

[fat man 4,741]

Were we not told at the meeting at in the horse n jockey that RISE were not behind us in our campaign to preserve our sport which is using terriers as a form of pest control.I have been in the past to a couple of RISE rallys and also brought lads with me as a show of support.I am also a shooting and fishing man and love every aspect of hunting in any form but imo the IWTF are a minority among other sports which is wrong.

[dublin dezzy 1,023]

RISE is a campaign made up of various fieldsports organisations in Ireland.

As to their relationship with the IWTF ?

Some of these organisations have spoke to the IWTF and some have given the IWTF advice.

These organisations have been very helpfull to the IWTF and have played a big part in making us what we are today, which is amazing after only a few weeks.

So in my opinion we owe RISE and should be there to support the rally.

After all it is a rally that's supporting ALL fieldsports.

Hi Neil

I personally think the Terrier man is in a catch22 situation when it comes to supporting RISE,i would support any fieldsport yet they dont support mine.

There was a big turnout of Terrier men from around the Country at the RISE rally not so long ago,yet they still dont support us,any one know why?Im sure you have been in contact with RISE,will they be supporting the IWTF in the future.After all Terrier work is a recognised fieldsport?

[ferret features 289]

I think this and other threads demonstrate that some of the biggest threats to country sports come from within rather than without.

 

RISE asked us could they hold a rally at the fair in order to demonstrate without a shadow of a doubt the support they have and can mobilise within the rural and country sports community.My colleagues and I were delighted to oblige as we are fully in support of the RISE campaign and we are all committed to the defence and promotion of all legal country sports and felt this would help unify the country sports community. We also felt that we were doing something positive for ALL country sports by giving RISE access to not only our audience of committed country sports people but also to a large and largely sympathetic family audience - in short the sort of people who we will need to sway to our side in the battles to come.

 

The last thing on our mind was that we would be getting extra receipts at the gate - quite honestly I have been stunned by this accusation and by the mindset of people who would put it forward. I have made SMCC an offer for his bus run of FREE tickets to sell on behalf of the IWTF and FF and JH for FREE admission if they simply want to support RISE and not the fair. I am sure Sam will try his best to take advantage of this - I will report back on FF &JH's uptake. If they do they will find that while I fight my corner in an arguement I don't hold a grudge and I am 100% for country sports unity and not internecine bickering.

 

Albertj

bickering.........OPINIONS old chap opinions.

[AlbertJ 569]

Don't worry FF you wont be taken for an ol' idiot.

With your way of thinking, we'll leave that up to yourself.

Now now Neil thats no way for a chairman of a country wide organisation to be

talking to people ,Ferret Features could be a member .

 

The man or woman has a point ,we never had to pay into a RISE rally before

Having turned down the offer of a FREE ticket to the fair if you simply wished to come and support RISE - it is not terribly clear where you are coming from - are you against the fair or against RISE or both?

[just hunt 69]

It reminds me of the book Animal Farm

 

EVERYONE IS EQUAL ONLY SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS

 

 

the book not the film

[AlbertJ 569]

RISE is a campaign made up of various fieldsports organisations in Ireland.

As to their relationship with the IWTF ?

Some of these organisations have spoke to the IWTF and some have given the IWTF advice.

These organisations have been very helpfull to the IWTF and have played a big part in making us what we are today, which is amazing after only a few weeks.

So in my opinion we owe RISE and should be there to support the rally.

After all it is a rally that's supporting ALL fieldsports.

Hi Neil

I personally think the Terrier man is in a catch22 situation when it comes to supporting RISE,i would support any fieldsport yet they dont support mine.

There was a big turnout of Terrier men from around the Country at the RISE rally not so long ago,yet they still dont support us,any one know why?Im sure you have been in contact with RISE,will they be supporting the IWTF in the future.After all Terrier work is a recognised fieldsport?

 

Again I can't speak for RISE but I know from discussions with them they have a commitment to defending the status quo when it comes to pest control. I would suspect that RISE will wait and see how the IWTF develops before it throws its weight behind it. I was able to offer some support to the IWTF because I have only to please myself and my colleagues in the fair were happy to go along with me BUT if was a board member of RISE I would be saying wait and see how it develops. What I can say is that I have offered IWTF the support of our fairs and our magazine.

[weasle 1,119]

it also put people under an obligation to attend the fair.surely the capatail is the best place for a rally with the antis marching on the same day.heavy security tv coverage assured FREE.

The antis only organised their so called protest after RISE and The Great GameFairs of Ireland got together.

Surely a few euro is worthy of supporting your sport and a day out.

But that's your own buisness.

giving a few euros isnt the issue.i dont like being taken for an oul idiot this being sugested is to boost gate takings these people couldnt care less about lurcher n terrier men ever hear the oul saying.ruling by fooling.

I am afraid to say that I consider the mentality of your statement provides its own condemnation!

 

As I said it is not at all about boosting gate receipts - RISE approached us and we were happy to facilitate them in providing a venue where the rally will take place amongst a guaranteed crowd of supporters. In terms of your allegation 'that these people' by which I would assume you mean me couldn't care less about terrier & lurcher men - I would suggest you look at the prize list for Birr and answer me this - where else would you see such an investment in terrier & lurcher events - except at our other fair at Shanes Castle.

What you need is public to understand what you do in hunting,Instead you will rally amongst people who support you,While the antis are out there with photos telling lads that have never even seen a fox,How there RIPPED TO PIECES,EATEN ALIVE.How many lads have been to these meetings have heard phrases like We dont want to draw attion to our selves,ect.

[just hunt 69]

I tell you something Albert ,those that know me know the work that I and others

done for RISE ,the hard work the unseen work

You know fxxk all about me

[AlbertJ 569]

it also put people under an obligation to attend the fair.surely the capatail is the best place for a rally with the antis marching on the same day.heavy security tv coverage assured FREE.

The antis only organised their so called protest after RISE and The Great GameFairs of Ireland got together.

Surely a few euro is worthy of supporting your sport and a day out.

But that's your own buisness.

giving a few euros isnt the issue.i dont like being taken for an oul idiot this being sugested is to boost gate takings these people couldnt care less about lurcher n terrier men ever hear the oul saying.ruling by fooling.

I am afraid to say that I consider the mentality of your statement provides its own condemnation!

 

As I said it is not at all about boosting gate receipts - RISE approached us and we were happy to facilitate them in providing a venue where the rally will take place amongst a guaranteed crowd of supporters. In terms of your allegation 'that these people' by which I would assume you mean me couldn't care less about terrier & lurcher men - I would suggest you look at the prize list for Birr and answer me this - where else would you see such an investment in terrier & lurcher events - except at our other fair at Shanes Castle.

What you need is public to understand what you do in hunting,Instead you will rally amongst people who support you,While the antis are out there with photos telling lads that have never even seen a fox,How there RIPPED TO PIECES,EATEN ALIVE.How many lads have been to these meetings have heard phrases like We dont want to draw attion to our selves,ect.

I also said " RISE asked us could they hold a rally at the fair in order to demonstrate without a shadow of a doubt the support they have and can mobilise within the rural and country sports community.My colleagues and I were delighted to oblige as we are fully in support of the RISE campaign and we are all committed to the defence and promotion of all legal country sports and felt this would help unify the country sports community. We also felt that we were doing something positive for ALL country sports by giving RISE access to not only our audience of committed country sports people but also to a large and largely sympathetic family audience - in short the sort of people who we will need to sway to our side in the battles to come." What is very important to demonstrate at BIrr is the number of people mobilised for the Birr rally hopefully outnumbering the Anti rally by several thousand to demonstrate the relative support for the positions of the two groups. This can be one of the best PR coups ever but it is not helped by people who are anti Rise, anti establishment, anti me or anti RISE being negative can we not agree that we are all PRO Countrysports and we have an unrivalled opportunity to demonstrate that to politicians and media at Birr.

[AlbertJ 569]

I tell you something Albert ,those that know me know the work that I and others

done for RISE ,the hard work the unseen work

You know fxxk all about me

 

If that is the case I cannot understand why you could not come to Birr to support THEM once I removed your objection of 'paying to attend a rally' by offering you a free ticket to the fair if you wished to support RISE and not the fair.

Edited August 14, 2012 by AlbertJ