Ireland ballywalter cheating

[AlbertJ 569]

albertj i no what your saying. thought ballywalter last year was a good day out and shanes castle is always a brilliant day out like i said before i very rarely enter my dogs in anything at the shows so reckon i mite have went abit over the top and stuck my nose in where it wasn't needed

 

I speak frankly and don't mind frank talk and I admire a man who can say he's even a little bit wrong! If I get it wrong and like all forthright people I do - I am never afraid to say so. Hope to see you at Shanes and hear your opinion of the judges there. As with Ballywalter we will announce them so that people who do not like a particular judge don't have a wasted journey.

 

Albertj

[hogie 103]

i dont have a problem with rose judging the shows she's probably the best person to judge the whippet type lurchers you could get because her whippet types lurchers are probably the fastest in the country and she's supposed to work them aswell but there where afew classes she has no experience in and alot of poeple where saying she picked her friends and that bullx's wherent standing a chance i only seen 2 or 3 lurcher classes the last was the veteran class then i had to go make sure the missus wasn't buying are house a full makeover

[winner69 25]

albertj i no what your saying. thought ballywalter last year was a good day out and shanes castle is always a brilliant day out like i said before i very rarely enter my dogs in anything at the shows so reckon i mite have went abit over the top and stuck my nose in where it wasn't needed

 

I speak frankly and don't mind frank talk and I admire a man who can say he's even a little bit wrong! If I get it wrong and like all forthright people I do - I am never afraid to say so. Hope to see you at Shanes and hear your opinion of the judges there. As with Ballywalter we will announce them so that people who do not like a particular judge don't have a wasted journey.

 

Albertj

have you decided on the judges for shanes castle yet? and are you going to reveal them?

[AlbertJ 569]

albertj i no what your saying. thought ballywalter last year was a good day out and shanes castle is always a brilliant day out like i said before i very rarely enter my dogs in anything at the shows so reckon i mite have went abit over the top and stuck my nose in where it wasn't needed

 

I speak frankly and don't mind frank talk and I admire a man who can say he's even a little bit wrong! If I get it wrong and like all forthright people I do - I am never afraid to say so. Hope to see you at Shanes and hear your opinion of the judges there. As with Ballywalter we will announce them so that people who do not like a particular judge don't have a wasted journey.

 

Albertj

have you decided on the judges for shanes castle yet? and are you going to reveal them?

 

We have the terrier & lurcher judge selected just waiting for confirmation of the whippet one.

[Wetnoseman 26]

so have we heard were the harper hound came from ? i know were it didnt come from lololol hurry up kirsty and get that fake pedigree printed out before your device blows up lololol

[Wetnoseman 26]

i notice somebody worrying about the cops being at ballywalter If youve got nothing to hide then whats the problem ? unless your a well known scroat why worry.

[hogie 103]

i notice somebody worrying about the cops being at ballywalter If youve got nothing to hide then whats the problem ? unless your a well known scroat why worry.

if thats at me i wasn't to bothered about the cops but asoon as they turned up alot of the terrier boys put there terriers away which sort of ruined the day even through albert has said they wherent there to spoil the day

[Wetnoseman 26]

Whippet Police to the Harpers Come in Harpers

[pigsy 34]

Bottom line is the dog in question welcome to race at Shnes and the whippet club Better still the dog done nothing wrong the dog should be made welcome and the owener refuse admission to the events? And the black dog that knocked 6 bells outof all in it's heat will it be able to race at Shanes? who is going to put their dog in the same heat? to get their race ruimed and rehaps a good dog ruined or badly hurt Lastly the guy with a trailer load of greys has he qualifed for the master McGarth? Will be be back at the next event to race his Greyhounds?

[AlbertJ 569]

I thought I had finished on this thread but fair points Pigsy. You and I often disagree but I enjoy our debates!

 

As you will know elsewhere I have asked Kirsty publicly twice to put up the breeder and the breeding of the dog. If I don't get an answer within the next week I will assume that this information will not be made available. To date all we have is a vague assertion that it was bred by someone in Greysteel.

 

I am meeting with the Glenbank club today to discuss these matters. BUT since I made the decision to let it run on Sunday along with two other unegistered dogs I personally will make the decision whether it can run as a whippet at Shanes. I did question its legitimacy as a whippet but was told it had been passed by the Sporting Whippet Club and a top judge of whippets. If the matter is not cleared up Kirsty's dog will be allowed to run at Shanes BUT only in the under 21 class.

 

For 2013 - it is likely that whippet racing will be restricted to KC registered whippets only.

 

I did not see the incident with the black dog but I will be discussing with Matt about the problem about persistent offenders. Such barging can be accidental as can be seen at greyhound raciing daily but there is a case for disqualifying persistent offenders.

 

On the alleged greyhound front - this is difficult. a 15/16 grey hound is eligible and full is not. Without knowing the breeding it is impossible for anyone to distinguish. Again we will look at taking an objection but please don't do so on the basis of rumour.

 

We have introduced the new Novice Directors Challenge and if we decide to continue to support the terriers & lurchers into 2013 we will have it on a level with the Master Mc Grath. So within this everyone has a chance of a good prize.

 

Albertj

[Guest ladyjane]

I did question its legitimacy as a whippet but was told it had been passed by the Sporting Whippet Club and a top judge of whippets.

 

Just because this dog was raced at the first meeting of the Sporting Whippet club this year does not give it the right to race anywhere else if the organisers have any doubts about it's eligibilty. Our club is not the be all and end all of whippets and organisers should have the courage of their convictions if they have any doubts. It's similar to a situation that arose last year when a particular dog was, as per our club rules, required to do a clearance trial as it had fought at our meeting. Somehow another event organiser got this information and was going to ban the dog from running at their event. That is not how it works!

What I will say is that I too will look forward to Kirsty putting up the dogs breeding as that was one of the first questions I asked when introduced to the dog as a baby puppy last year!

 

Janet

[winner69 25]

I did question its legitimacy as a whippet but was told it had been passed by the Sporting Whippet Club and a top judge of whippets.

 

Just because this dog was raced at the first meeting of the Sporting Whippet club this year does not give it the right to race anywhere else if the organisers have any doubts about it's eligibilty. Our club is not the be all and end all of whippets and organisers should have the courage of their convictions if they have any doubts. It's similar to a situation that arose last year when a particular dog was, as per our club rules, required to do a clearance trial as it had fought at our meeting. Somehow another event organiser got this information and was going to ban the dog from running at their event. That is not how it works!

What I will say is that I too will look forward to Kirsty putting up the dogs breeding as that was one of the first questions I asked when introduced to the dog as a baby puppy last year!

 

Janet

and what story did she concoct that time? Martin tuckers enrie is the da,from the word on the street,the reason she cant put up the breeding is she will be caught out its a greyhound cross whippet and althought martin tucker cant get it in his head tat dat makes a lurcher, is is not a whippet.

[AlbertJ 569]

I did question its legitimacy as a whippet but was told it had been passed by the Sporting Whippet Club and a top judge of whippets.

 

Just because this dog was raced at the first meeting of the Sporting Whippet club this year does not give it the right to race anywhere else if the organisers have any doubts about it's eligibilty. Our club is not the be all and end all of whippets and organisers should have the courage of their convictions if they have any doubts. It's similar to a situation that arose last year when a particular dog was, as per our club rules, required to do a clearance trial as it had fought at our meeting. Somehow another event organiser got this information and was going to ban the dog from running at their event. That is not how it works!

What I will say is that I too will look forward to Kirsty putting up the dogs breeding as that was one of the first questions I asked when introduced to the dog as a baby puppy last year!

 

Janet

 

Janet,

 

I was asked to make the final decision onthe three dogs. I felt that two were obviously whippets and this particular dog questionable. Kirsty was evasive about its breeding and I was about to rule against it when she claimed it had been accepted by the SWC and by you as a whippet. I obviously deferred to your knowledge of whippets. Had this not been mentioned I would have ruled against.

 

I now appreciate that you may have seen it as a PUPPY!

 

Now over to you Kirsty - let's hear who is the breeder AND what is the breeding?

 

Albert

[Wetnoseman 26]

EARTH TO KIRSTY.....COME IN KIRSTY....but leave the shxt stories and fake papers behind.

[paulcreed78 10]

If they are racing/showing dogs as full whippets, they should produce their KC papers... and scanned for micro chips... if not ...don't allow them a entry