Mustelid 143 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Seen some cracking and varied gundog crosses over the years matey, lab, gwp, gsp, springer and visla, more so the pointer crosses, but I was most taken back with the spaniel lurchers, by they could put some graft in on the hills, and not slow either. I like the lab cross in general, smart racey dogs with tight feet hard coat in general. None of the gundog crosses want for stamina, especially the spaniel type. I was tempted in the past to put one of my deerhounds over a big pointer cross that was a demon at his work, but never did it, in fact ive never bred a litter, I rely on good friends and family to keep our line going, a gritty process that I selfishly have reaped the rewards from, but now and then I wonder that the cross could have been a good choise. Whoever said why do lurchers need nose..? Feck is it me or do many folk not need their dog to hunt and find game thesedays? A nose is as important for me on a lurcher as it is on any gun dog. Deerhound types are not regarded for having nose but I can tell you that mine have great noses, plus a character that works it cleverly, to their advantage. Did the same poster say lamping would be affected badly if the dog has a good nose? Dont agree at all. Every one of my dogs worth keeping had a good nose, and I lamped with a few of them during the 20 odd years I resorted to lamping to keep the bills payed, if trained well then the nose dosent come into it when lamping. I saw most of the gundog crosses work daytime only, but the ones I went lamping with were good. The springer crosses were very good. I've kept springers for the past twelve years or so and I'm always surpeised with their sheer drive to find scent. They seem a natural fit for the production of a hard hunting lurcher, yet I've never seen one or heard first hand reports of one... If anyone wanted to produce this kind of hybrid they would be welcome to use my dog or I could advise on other springer dogs to suit. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 ive said this before but the best lurcher ive ever seen work was back in the 70`s and was the result of an acidental mating between a springer and a whippit/greyhound. Quote Link to post
Mustelid 143 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 ive said this before but the best lurcher ive ever seen work was back in the 70`s and was the result of an acidental mating between a spring and a whippit/greyhound. What size did that dog make? Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 ive said this before but the best lurcher ive ever seen work was back in the 70`s and was the result of an acidental mating between a spring and a whippit/greyhound. What size did that dog make? god now your asking it was 35 years ago i would guess about 21/22 Quote Link to post
Chid 6,708 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 put these pics on before springer x whippet/grey somewhere between 17/19tts quite fast and can turn on a 6 pence used as a ferreting dog Quote Link to post
poacher28 120 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 ive a old lab here now was well worth his place in his day. hewas a athletic lean dog not a fat lap dog as alot of labs are. he worked very well up untill he was 10 years old. he was allso used for ferreting netting ratting hunting and flushing to lurcher and more. He was regularly worked on pheasents rabbit partrige. this dog killed 2 foxes. i no its no feat but for a lab i think that grit to kill is quite hard to find in my expirience in labs. i could go in all day with acounts about this dog from hunting mink on river banks to shooting grouse. this dog is at home with me this very day. never mated a lurcher but it often xrossed my mind. Quote Link to post
Mustelid 143 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 put these pics on before springer x whippet/grey somewhere between 17/19tts quite fast and can turn on a 6 pence used as a ferreting dog Looks spot on. What's she like working cover? Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Mates springer/whippet at 5 months old and now turned into a very efficiant bushing dog at 9 months old. Quote Link to post
Tiny 7 1,694 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 A fellah i know has got a 3/4 bred dog, Looks like a straight greyhound big strong dog 27/28'' I rate him, He is a honest big dog and the most nimble dog you see can honestly spins rabbits like a whippet , Got a soft mouth on rabbits and retrevies anything, Great mouth, And jumps like a stag,And a great recovery rate, He's was a singlehanded dog could finsh a fox in seconds (Which i dont is a suprise as i think most mainly GH types will if anit entered too young), He was tailer made for deer work, And if he was a round before the ban iam sure he would of made a real decent type ! Killed a few hares also, decent on them got about a minute in the tank before he burns out (but never seen him really conditioned enough for a true test as like i say he dont do a lot with them) but he's killed no end, He's just a nice type of dog, You rarely have too tell him too do somthing he just seems too know what too do and to be, Only bad thing i can say about him that iv seen was he'll stalk rabbits on the lamp when walking and pause juist a few ft away waiting for them too move before he'll strike..But dont do it when you drive lamping... The lad who has him is a once a wk type of guy or lamping a few times a month, I honestly think if you put some real decent work into him and hammered him on everything i honestly think he would be one of them once in a lifetime dogs 1 Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I was out at end of season and a mates lab marked up a Fox set..stuck its head down and started Digging..the fox bolted from a hole lower down the set..my mate shot it..the lab retrieved it... very impressive. What way would you breed the litter.. I would have thought best way would be Lab bitch to running dog stud ? And while we are on the subject.. why not use a GWP I have been told they are very good.. strong longer legs,more racey.suposedly very highly prey driven and quite aggresive in a working type way.. Its what the elite of the falconers/shooters use. . . and some of them Labradoodles are quite interesting...great coats and by all accounts could be a usefull basis of something interesting. Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 A fellah i know has got a 3/4 bred dog, Looks like a straight greyhound big strong dog 27/28'' I rate him, He is a honest big dog and the most nimble dog you see can honestly spins rabbits like a whippet , Got a soft mouth on rabbits and retrevies anything, Great mouth, And jumps like a stag,And a great recovery rate, He's was a singlehanded dog could finsh a fox in seconds (Which i dont is a suprise as i think most mainly GH types will if anit entered too young), He was tailer made for deer work, And if he was a round before the ban iam sure he would of made a real decent type ! Killed a few hares also, decent on them got about a minute in the tank before he burns out (but never seen him really conditioned enough for a true test as like i say he dont do a lot with them) but he's killed no end, He's just a nice type of dog, You rarely have too tell him too do somthing he just seems too know what too do and to be, Only bad thing i can say about him that iv seen was he'll stalk rabbits on the lamp when walking and pause juist a few ft away waiting for them too move before he'll strike..But dont do it when you drive lamping... The lad who has him is a once a wk type of guy or lamping a few times a month, I honestly think if you put some real decent work into him and hammered him on everything i honestly think he would be one of them once in a lifetime dogs Crikey chap, i have searched my laptop but can't find dwaft text!!! Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 A fellah i know has got a 3/4 bred dog, Looks like a straight greyhound big strong dog 27/28'' I rate him, He is a honest big dog and the most nimble dog you see can honestly spins rabbits like a whippet , Got a soft mouth on rabbits and retrevies anything, Great mouth, And jumps like a stag,And a great recovery rate, He's was a singlehanded dog could finsh a fox in seconds (Which i dont is a suprise as i think most mainly GH types will if anit entered too young), He was tailer made for deer work, And if he was a round before the ban iam sure he would of made a real decent type ! Killed a few hares also, decent on them got about a minute in the tank before he burns out (but never seen him really conditioned enough for a true test as like i say he dont do a lot with them) but he's killed no end, He's just a nice type of dog, You rarely have too tell him too do somthing he just seems too know what too do and to be, Only bad thing i can say about him that iv seen was he'll stalk rabbits on the lamp when walking and pause juist a few ft away waiting for them too move before he'll strike..But dont do it when you drive lamping... The lad who has him is a once a wk type of guy or lamping a few times a month, I honestly think if you put some real decent work into him and hammered him on everything i honestly think he would be one of them once in a lifetime dogs Crikey chap, i have searched my laptop but can't find dwaft text!!! And ive just searched my dictionary and i cant find the word dwaft :laugh: 2 Quote Link to post
Chid 6,708 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 put these pics on before springer x whippet/grey somewhere between 17/19tts quite fast and can turn on a 6 pence used as a ferreting dog Looks spot on. What's she like working cover? She will work cover , she ain't my dog and only seen her work a couple of times Quote Link to post
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