PlasticJock 539 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 It won't make them think one but. They are loonies. I don't believe that they actually care about the animals tbh it's just a reason to fight their so called cause and fill their empty life's and heads. Same as football rivalry then You lot are getting pretty boring now with this. Don't wanna hear my views on it, then simply stop bringing it up. Scot, I don't watch football or support it in any way - it doesn't interest me whatsoever. I was only joking because I know you do and you have strong feelings about it never put you down as a homo bud! You never asked I wasn't until I met lab Quote Link to post Share on other sites
predatorman 54 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 lurcher330, the pic hardly shows the fox attacking or holding a live lamb. paulus, the sheep looked restrained somehow, maybe caught up in a fence? the fox was poking around it for sure, hardly went in for the kill lol. good research lads but i'm not convinced yet. in this day and age of nightvision etc surely someone would record something of note rather than the mountains of footage of foxes scavenging carcasses on hill farms? we'l just have to keep our fingers crossed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 lurcher330, the pic hardly shows the fox attacking or holding a live lamb. paulus, the sheep looked restrained somehow, maybe caught up in a fence? the fox was poking around it for sure, hardly went in for the kill lol. good research lads but i'm not convinced yet. in this day and age of nightvision etc surely someone would record something of note rather than the mountains of footage of foxes scavenging carcasses on hill farms? we'l just have to keep our fingers crossed If you're hunting would you give a s**t about recording footage to appease the antis?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevoSmith 147 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 This is why foxes need shooting....there deadly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 The one thing for me is yes foxes are a pest and need controling but whichever means and I agree with that. But like our own hunting dogs the humble charlie comes in many forms and temperments some charlie would and do walk pass lambs all there life without touching them and know this working on a farm with 3000 sheep and lambing since I was 8 years old till 21 . Yet when you get a wrong un they are one of the worst the same with badgers most dont bother with poultry yet you get a crazy boar they will kill ever last chicken in a run for nowt but fun . So you have to be realistic and bring the story into context with the population of charlie to lamb ratio in your country the stats are low . The main reason farmers are at the moment so worried is lamb is at a massive high price wise a couple of years back they was knocking feckers on the heads themself . So where has there morals gone then . ATB Cookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 more proof this one is attacking a sheep never mind a lamb Out of intrest did you take that clip while stalking the sheep yourself and charlie ruined your plans for bit of ATB Cookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1Wally 204 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 lurcher330, the pic hardly shows the fox attacking or holding a live lamb. paulus, the sheep looked restrained somehow, maybe caught up in a fence? the fox was poking around it for sure, hardly went in for the kill lol. good research lads but i'm not convinced yet. in this day and age of nightvision etc surely someone would record something of note rather than the mountains of footage of foxes scavenging carcasses on hill farms? we'l just have to keep our fingers crossed Plus the pic is photoshopped, its not real. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevoSmith 147 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 On a serious note though foxes do take young/sick lambs farmer who's land i shoot on has lost a few so far this year and tell me he knows its foxes as if the lamb was already dead it would not bleed and one or two he has found were bloodied around neck few more images from net Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 something for the cat lovers 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,250 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 lamb prices have gone mad,i was paying 75 for a large lamb butchered,spoke to farmer yesterday to order one and now they are 95,100.how many people have seen a sheep stripped by badgers is shocking i try and find the photo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I find it f'ckin bizarre that a couple of bits of info/footage have been put up that support out case for hunting foxes, and two or three so called hunters are disputing it and playing down the pest that foxes are!!!!!.....which side are you on for f'cks sake?????????? Good pics paulus and stevo! 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher330 2,301 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 Was up at the land last night with the lurcher and lamp and seen a couple of foxes but couldn't get them in to get a slip but the farmer was telling me most of the lambs taken where from a set of twins and he reckons that's how they usually work ,while the ewe is trying to protect one they attack the other Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 If farmers are getting a good price then best of luck to them. Next year it could be the oppisite. Anyone who says foxes don't take lambs is a fool. As will the badger and the grey crow will pull the eyes out of a lamb that the ewe isn't watching. The grey crow will also take the eye out of an adult sheep when it's stuck on it's back. I've also seen where a fox ate the udder of a ewe when she was stuck on her back. She was still alive when we found her the next morning. This year I know a farmer who lost all triplets to a pair of ravens (one in each set of triplets). I worked for a farmer once who lost 25 lambs in a couple of weeks. Lamb prices were bad that year but the comblined loss was £300 at a time when a mans wage was less than £200 a week. I dug a vixen and the problem ended. A few years ago the anti's were delighted when some bright spark invented a bright yellow plastic jacket to put on young lambs to stop fox attacks. The anti's said there was no more need for fox control. I know one terrierman who dug a vixen and cubs that were useing the plastic jackets as bedding. After they'd eaten the lambs of course. When the fox is trying to take a lamb the ewe will often successfully defend her youngster. That's why it's usually a twin or triplet that's taken because it's harder to protect 2 that 1 but when the badger takes a lamb he'll just wade in and take the lamb while ignoreing the attack from the ewe. He's just too thick skinned. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 theres been a problem up here at the farm, the old collie has killed 2 foxes & the farmer has shot 1 in the last month Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurcher330 2,301 Posted March 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 Do you doubters not think if farmers where not worried about foxes they would let people and even call people out at this time of year with dogs deal with them,they know the land and it's ways a lot better than most. Sure i know a few farmers that won't even use their sheep dogs at this time of year in case the sheep become worried A fox might start of with a still born lamb but then it has the taste for them and a lamb is easy picking for them in the first few weeks they are no bigger than a fully grown rabbit BTW great post Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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