123456 146 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 General which was litter mate to ray walkers buck smashed his hock as a yound dog, meant he always walked funny but didn't effect him working according to my father. Little bitch here broke her kneck and damage a nerve to her leg, she walks funny now but doesn't affect her working, I wouldn't worry about it mate Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 If the dog covered a bitch some years ago then we can take it its not a youngster, so if it has had this abnormality all its life then its not going to be very fixable as a mature adult with well set biomechanics. Basically if that was how it was born then by now it will have developed its own biomechanics to cope with the unusual movement. If on the other hand it was secondary to an injury then the most likely trauma that could result in throwing out a rear leg on running is a tear to the inner thigh muscle, commonly the gracillas. Again if it was an old injury that is now healed then there’s little that can be done now other than hope it doesn’t happen again, if a new injury the rest and rehab are needed as there is always a chance that the residual scaring will weaken the muscle leading to re occurrence. So if, as most likely it was born with poor bio mechanics then breeding from it will just continue the problem into the next generation. Its better to breed from parent with good structure as then the pups have a good starting point. A pup born with poor biomechanics has to overcome them if its to make a decent worker and so starts with a disadvantage. 2 Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 He only bought the dog a few weeks ago and he's just noticed it now so he doesn't know if it's an old injury or it's genetic Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 The above is the reason we never bred from a decent working bitch. She had all the right things in her head, but being cow hocked (where the hocks turn inwards which I think is what the original poster means) there will always be greater stress on the joints as the muscles have to work harder to compensate for the joints not being quite in the right position. Plus ligament and tendon damage is more likely as well. For example, a person with bandy legs will likely suffer from knee problems later in life as the knee is put under so much more stress than if the leg were straight. I'm sure Sandymere can explain it in more medical terms, but that's how I look at it. Quote Link to post
Irish Lurcher 1,013 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 He only bought the dog a few weeks ago and he's just noticed it now so he doesn't know if it's an old injury or it's genetic Alright MUDD How old is the dog and can ur mate not get in contact with the lad he got it from to ask if there is any history in the line. I have a bitch here who slightly throws her right back leg, but never seems to bother her in the field. Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 He only bought the dog a few weeks ago and he's just noticed it now so he doesn't know if it's an old injury or it's genetic Alright MUDD How old is the dog and can ur mate not get in contact with the lad he got it from to ask if there is any history in the line. I have a bitch here who slightly throws her right back leg, but never seems to bother her in the field. Hi lurcher I sent him a message there asking him what you stated so I'm waiting on a reply. All I know is it's a brindle dog an he was told the dog is 6 year old it's his back left leg in his case that's doing it. Thanks Quote Link to post
jimmys shop 182 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Mudd i think going down to the Boneman in Newry is the best answer .He,ll be able to put your mate,s mind at rest and advise him whats the best way to fix it . 1 Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Mudd i think going down to the Boneman in Newry is the best answer .He,ll be able to put your mate,s mind at rest and advise him whats the best way to fix it . Cheers jimmys shop, I Gave him the number, hopefully he gets sorted and it's not too serious. I was speaking to my other mate earlier said he had a dog the same and it wasn't great on the turn because of it. Quote Link to post
scotty2306 37 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 i think bull xs look as though they run different to other crosses from the rear view legs wide open and really digging in some walk like this aswel.mates dog used to kick its front leg out something terrible when walking and look all springy but when working it was as good as any other dog Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 If the dog covered a bitch some years ago then we can take it its not a youngster, so if it has had this abnormality all its life then its not going to be very fixable as a mature adult with well set biomechanics. Basically if that was how it was born then by now it will have developed its own biomechanics to cope with the unusual movement. If on the other hand it was secondary to an injury then the most likely trauma that could result in throwing out a rear leg on running is a tear to the inner thigh muscle, commonly the gracillas. Again if it was an old injury that is now healed then there’s little that can be done now other than hope it doesn’t happen again, if a new injury the rest and rehab are needed as there is always a chance that the residual scaring will weaken the muscle leading to re occurrence. So if, as most likely it was born with poor bio mechanics then breeding from it will just continue the problem into the next generation. Its better to breed from parent with good structure as then the pups have a good starting point. A pup born with poor biomechanics has to overcome them if its to make a decent worker and so starts with a disadvantage. Thanks for your input sandymere, much appreciated. Atb MUDD Quote Link to post
2.8 guy 403 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 like thats all been said before could be many reason, but next time he buys a dog i bet he checks its line of trot every days a school day atb Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 He rang the lad he bought it off and the lad said it walked alright when he had it lol. He's gonna bring it to the vets to get it checked over. 1 Quote Link to post
juckler123 707 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Cow hocked dogs ive seen have all been poorly raised as pups never seen one genetic may be wrong but thats what me eyes have beheld. Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Cow hocked dogs ive seen have all been poorly raised as pups never seen one genetic may be wrong but thats what me eyes have beheld. I take your just having a wind up? Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted March 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2012 Cow hocked dogs ive seen have all been poorly raised as pups never seen one genetic may be wrong but thats what me eyes have beheld. I take your just having a wind up? Quote Link to post
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