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Whats cheeky about it? It is without doubt one of the most unselfish acts a human being can do for another imo..If it bothers you that much then fill in the form telling them to leave your organs alo

well id do anything, an i litterally mean anything to keep my children alive, i couldnae gee 2 flying flooks what it took, id rather be known as a hypocrite than know i coulda helped me child surive

For anyone to say they would knock it back is just crazy and to tell the truth I would think they wer telling porkie pies.

whilst i dont agree with gnashers sentiments on where my organs go,,, and i thought his answer a bit over the top ,,,, but i sat here for a while thinking about it.. :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

 

 

now even i would be pissed off , if my famiys organs went to a c**t like the fecker with the hook,, abu hanser is it ??

i suppose theres hipocrasy in all of us, :icon_redface:

 

Thats not hypocrisy Tomo its just common sense.....unfortunately we are living in times where common sense is taken as hypocrisy,racism even hatred...........im not daft Tomo i know your other half is black/half caste i forget which......do i feel im on shakey ground talking about this subject with you,no i dont....A,..i dont feel guilty about speaking what i consider to be common sense.......and B,....you strike me as a decent and intelligent chap who wont take an opinion as hatred/racism etc.....

Ive had black friends over many years we,ve never had trouble discussing subjects of this nature.....and thats because not everyone is as obssessed and infatuated with the word racism as the media/politicians and those who try to control our minds would have us believe.

Nobody should feel guilty or hypocritical about basic common sense thinking.......all the best :thumbs:

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Thats not hypocrisy Tomo its just common sense.....unfortunately we are living in times where common sense is taken as hypocrisy,racism even hatred...........im not daft Tomo i know your other half is black/half caste i forget which......do i feel im on shakey ground talking about this subject with you,no i dont....A,..i dont feel guilty about speaking what i consider to be common sense.......and B,....you strike me as a decent and intelligent chap who wont take an opinion as hatred/racism etc.....

Ive had black friends over many years we,ve never had trouble discussing subjects of this nature.....and thats because not everyone is as obssessed and infatuated with the word racism as the media/politicians and those who try to control our minds would have us believe.

Nobody should feel guilty or hypocritical about basic common sense thinking.......all the best :thumbs:

 

I think what you call common sense thinking Gnash is just the basic human survival instinct to protect those of your own and f**k others not of your own. Would you agree? I don't think many people would knock that thinking at all, it's such a natural basic instinct that is essential in a world where natural selection has ruled since the beginning of time.

 

The trouble is we all define 'our own kind' differently. From your posts I get the impression your definition is white British? That's fair enough and in an idealistic world that would be mine to. Unfortunately though that simple but defined 'line in the sand' leaves me a bit uncomfortable when you bring in to consideration British nationals, born in this country but of ethnic origin. They are British by birth and choice, quite possibly as loyal to their country as you or I, but fall the unfortunate side of the line. Are they really any less British than a white man? Are we, white British, not a mix of Native Brit, Roman, Saxon and Norman blood? How many generations have to be kept within the country untill such a mix is classed as 100% British?

 

I don't know the right answer but my opinion is it's not a simple one. Had the powers that be not allowed such mass immigration we would most probably not be the slightest bit bothered anyway.

 

Just a few thoughts that spilled out..... :thumbs:

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If you lost your penis in a unfortunate accident (Mr Bobbit style accident LOL), the plastic surgeon walks up to you whilst your in hospital bed "sorry Mr X this is all we have to offer, a 12" soft, black mans penis" before you could answer your wife would be signing the consent form with her finger nail !

 

Just to make light heart of a debate which can and does have ill effect on society. Race wars!

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Some good points there Gnash. Would you or wouldnt you accept an organ you needed to keep you alive from a black person?

 

I dont bullshit myself mate so yes if it was life or death of course i would......i like living too much to start arguing with my own conscience in a situation like that...........................but as an Englishman living in England i think i should be entitled to whatever is here and up for grabs.........however as an Englishman living in Ghana i would have to accept that i wouldnt be entitled to anything.

Unfortunately from a white Englishmans point of view i know i am not of a priority in my own country the way Africans are priority in their own country.

 

Dont agree with that at all, people who have paid into the country for years can be sent to other countries for work purposes surely they have the same right as a Englishman living in England.

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I think what you call common sense thinking Gnash is just the basic human survival instinct to protect those of your own and f**k others not of your own. Would you agree? I don't think many people would knock that thinking at all, it's such a natural basic instinct that is essential in a world where natural selection has ruled since the beginning of time.

 

The trouble is we all define 'our own kind' differently. From your posts I get the impression your definition is white British? That's fair enough and in an idealistic world that would be mine to. Unfortunately though that simple but defined 'line in the sand' leaves me a bit uncomfortable when you bring in to consideration British nationals, born in this country but of ethnic origin. They are British by birth and choice, quite possibly as loyal to their country as you or I, but fall the unfortunate side of the line. Are they really any less British than a white man? Are we, white British, not a mix of Native Brit, Roman, Saxon and Norman blood? How many generations have to be kept within the country untill such a mix is classed as 100% British?

 

I don't know the right answer but my opinion is it's not a simple one. Had the powers that be not allowed such mass immigration we would most probably not be the slightest bit bothered anyway.

 

Just a few thoughts that spilled out..... :thumbs:

 

I suppose its where you get into the " dog born in a stable " saying........for me there has to be that line in the sand otherwise just like we witness everyday things get out of control and it becomes a free for all.....

 

I certainly couldnt disagree with your first paragraph yes i suppose it is a natural basic human instinct to protect our own kind.........i guess im guilty of that one.......and in all fairness your " spilled out thoughts " as you call them should possibly cause a rethink as id never looked at it like that............so thankyou sir its always an interesting time when more knowledge/opinions forces us to question our own understanding :thumbs:

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