chartpolski 27,572 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I can see both points of view. Whin says he runs his dogs "hard"; but "hard" here isn't the same as, say "hard" in Oz, N.Z. or the U.S., where the quarry is vastly different to what we run here, and some dogs that run the big stuff don't make it thru' the first season, never mind four or five seasons ! If a dog makes it to it's third season running some of the bigger stuff in these countries, it's done well !! LOL !! So if some one breeds a young dog, that may not make old age, to keep the bloodline, then I can understand that. But what we run here, dogs, barring accidents, should have a longer working life. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post
black recking it 730 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 ive heard of alot of stuff on here of breeding dogs and there thoughts on breeding them , ive done some things my self not the best way but lucky it worked out for me , what age do you use your dog at stud three is agood starting age or 4 ,and who believe putting a dog over a greyhound makes a good hare dog etc ive always believed a good running dog has to have more than half running dog or more whats your thoughts whin when it comes to breeding and thought,s ? i would rather there were home,s for the pup,s before breeding as the country mans weekly ect is full of pup,s every week your last litter were in it ? and how old was luca when you used him as stud couldnt have been much older than 18month,s ?KEEP ON BREEDING WHIN 2 Quote Link to post
george15 5 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 i wouldnt breed a dog unless its well proven an by that i dont mean 1 or 2 seasons under its belt . . . . something like 4 or 5 seasons under it an is 110% doing what you ask of it . . . . Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,301 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Does a bitch's cervix start to close up at about 5 years old if not bred from before that ,i know a few that will breed a bitch at 3 years old for their 1st litter because most bitchs haveing their 1st litter after 4 or 5 years old seem to have problems ,and i have seen it happen on a few time where older bitchs having their 1st litter had problems and had to have a C section Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 blacky luca was older and eighteen months saw him week in week out catching all qaurry i must be a good judge as the pups are just as good my mate bred him to a bully dog and there still catching them single handed , so was that cleverness or luckyness ,lucas not my dog i dont let my dogs bred until 2 good seasons , doing a bit of everything ,he even went down fens at ayear and stopped 2 out 3 in feb , and lamped a lot to , so there you go Quote Link to post
black recking it 730 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 blacky luca was older and eighteen months saw him week in week out catching all qaurry i must be a good judge as the pups are just as good my mate bred him to a bully dog and there still catching them single handed , so was that cleverness or luckyness ,lucas not my dog i dont let my dogs bred until 2 good seasons , doing a bit of everything ,he even went down fens at ayear and stopped 2 out 3 in feb , and lamped a lot to , so there you go blacky luca was older and eighteen months saw him week in week out catching all qaurry i must be a good judge as the pups are just as good my mate bred him to a bully dog and there still catching them single handed , so was that cleverness or luckyness ,lucas not my dog i dont let my dogs bred until 2 good seasons , doing a bit of everything ,he even went down fens at ayear and stopped 2 out 3 in feb , and lamped a lot to , so there you go YOU SAID UP ABOVE GOOD STARTING AGE FOR A DOG 3 0R 4 FOR STUD LUCA WAS YOUNGER THAN 2 WHEN YOU USED HIM FACT AND I NO YOU DONT OWN HIM NEVER SAID YOU DID ATB BRI Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 i think theres too much kennel blindness an sentimentatilty in the lurcher world, far too many folk breed off there ole bitch to keep a pup back, when in all honesty they could probs buy/get a pup in, il only ever breed a litter if i can honestly say to myself that i couldnt source a better bred pup or a pup out of better workers, an to date i know of dogs better than mine, so ill source my pups from the best i can find, even tho my dogs do what i want, i know there are better out there 3 Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 red dawn thtas the most clever thing youve said mate ,youre learning of an old hand , lol , if i never bought in years ago we would have thought plumer and hancock were the dogs bollocks but through hunting comps coursing comps you see dogs from all over mate , the days are over for the public days but if you dont by of proven stuff very hard to keep it going 1 Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 you no more than me blacky he had done 2 seasons to my knlowledge , doing his trade , the mother was 5 when i lined her my bitch , and would i do it again to [bANNED TEXT] ,but the pet home were she is not botherd about pups,as i says and lucas not with us , but his pups are about him and tesses, Quote Link to post
WILF 49,729 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 i think theres too much kennel blindness an sentimentatilty in the lurcher world, far too many folk breed off there ole bitch to keep a pup back, when in all honesty they could probs buy/get a pup in, il only ever breed a litter if i can honestly say to myself that i couldnt source a better bred pup or a pup out of better workers, an to date i know of dogs better than mine, so ill source my pups from the best i can find, even tho my dogs do what i want, i know there are better out there Good post matey and very true, theres dogs and theres dogs Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) red dawn thtas the most clever thing youve said mate ,youre learning of an old hand , lol , if i never bought in years ago we would have thought plumer and hancock were the dogs bollocks but through hunting comps coursing comps you see dogs from all over mate , the days are over for the public days but if you dont by of proven stuff very hard to keep it going well whin i knew my dogs were doing the buisness localy, so i asked about an sorted a few invites way decent dog men an got my dogs out doing same job as them, my dogs kept up way most dogs, but there was a couple a guys that had better, much better, i have travelled a fair bit an had a good few other guys at mine these last feww seasons, just to compare the dogs, an like i say in my eyes i have found the guys an lines i want to have in my kennel an try next, so i wont be breeding anytime in the forseeable future Edited December 20, 2011 by reddawn Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 thats true red, fech when sniper one th4 forley i got a pup of him , and worked him bred him, same when my old mate one a few comps i bred his dogs to mines and then bred the lines together with other class acts , but it gets harder as they say ,its a hard game tp reproduce god dogs you need to travel and see whats about , been lucky to see the best of it Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 i done the same reddawn twenty years ago and before the ban either rabbiting coursing or lamping game , harder now ,youjust have to keep pets and rabbit dogs Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,623 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 There must be some great dogs on THL by the comments? If everyone has done it the "correct" way as they say then there will be no need to go looking for the best like Whin does as every Tom,dick and Harry will have them? If only things were that simple? ATB Andy 3 Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,236 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 SWINGS ROUND ABOUTS can understand the man wanting a welp from a good honest sort of bitch ,i would say buying in from the very best of the type desired will allways outweigh the odds .One stands has much chance of aquiring the good welp has the breeder seen it time and time again .breeding from animals of 2yrs or in some cases less maybe not the ideal to some ,but this his where the lineage starts to play a big part in the outcome of the welps , the old adage if thee aint nought bad in the line yee have a good chance of producing the goods ,sometimes its not an ideal world and one has to play the hand of aknown well bred animal ,and surprise surprise he produces the goods , has we know its not allways the best animals in the field that beget and produce the best atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
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