pianoman 3,586 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 piano man thats a shit post mate. ive had springers before and id say theres not that much difference. but the pcp is better i think because you have multishot and is quieter shooting wise anyone can hit a bullseye with a springer. the guys asking info and your giving none whatsoever boots i would do what the other guys said which is go and have a look at guns but i personally think pcp is the way to go if you have a the funds cheers sean Boots asks PCP or springer? and I replied springer and a straightforward reason why Sean. I didn't think it necessary to have to go repeating all the good advice he's been given already, old chum You didn't mention a pcp needs extra charging gear, which adds to what can be considerable costs for the rifle alone; and there's a finite number of shots it'll do before it runs out of puff. They are not, generally, as durable as spring rifles and don't like rough handling and dusty conditions; whereas, a spring rifle will take the wear and tear of rough handling in it's stride.. PCPs' will not let you experience recoil. They will not teach you how to manage recoil. They will not teach you much about changing harmonics, They will not teach you sensitivity of hold, trigger-pressure setting and follow-through in quite the same way that a spring rifle demands of you. I have never found myself wishing I had a multishot facility on any of my spring rifles, though I can see the advantage. Nor do I agree that anyone can hit a bullseye with a springer, in my humble experience. Especially when you are shooting one over a series of target ranges, from 20 to 65 Metres. Some can, but a good few more cannot. All these points have been raised and discussed here before Sean. And I'll repeat what I've always said before. If you want to learn shooting correctly from the basement up, mate, nothing beats a quality springer for making a thoroughly well seasoned shooter out of you. But other than that, as far as basic accuracy goes, spring or pre-charged, you are bang-on correct; there's now't between em mate All the best. Simon 1 Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I agree nor everyone can hit the bullseye, a springer takes good gun handling skills to get the best out of it, which is why every shooter should keep one in their collection, even if only used for target work at a range, they just help you shoot better because if you can control a springer mastering the recoil and the handling, you can master a pcp. You can become a proficient shot with a pcp, but the spring rifle handling will help you be a master. That's why Mary and I have both added spring powered rifles back into our collection, they keep you on top of the game. If you want a weird combination of both then buy a BSA Goldstar air rifle, No before anybody bounces up and down making vroom vroom noises, it is not a motorbike! Here is a photo of one... It is an underlever repeater! An interesting wee beastie! Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,586 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 It was actually a very good rifle Mike. Made in the days when BSA were a fine British gunmaker. Quote Link to post
zx10mike 137 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 the spring rifle will help you become a master pass me a bucket.there is a nack to a springer but personally i find a pcp more accurate.i would consider myself ok with it but not a master Quote Link to post
zx10mike 137 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 having said that i think ob1 had a springer Quote Link to post
boots 7 Posted October 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 hi lads went to a gun shop today was spoilt for choice but did have a look at aa hw bsa thought they were all good guns looking at them the fella in the siop said that they are all good choices but the top two he chose were the hw and the AA bsa 3rd so now its decision time but im greatfull to you all for the advice given :thumbs: Quote Link to post
Sweeney-Todd 208 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Hi Boots. Evey shooter has their favourites, and Im no different. AA or HW for Spring Rifle, and its definatly worth giving the BSA Scorpian SE some consideration for PCP choice, awsome rifle straight from the box. Good luck with your choices. ATB. Bill. Quote Link to post
Marksman 934 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Best advice I can give is give your local gun shop a visit and TRY OUT different rifles. Just because they look good doesnt mean they'll feel right in your shoulder, choose the one that suits uoi and your budget Darryl Quote Link to post
boots 7 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 hw springer was the gun i went out with today had 5 pigeons with it but found it heavy after a while missed first one found lot of recoil and noise next gun going out with is stealth pcp so will let you now what i think :thumbs: Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 But which HW springer? Break barrel or underlever? Quote Link to post
Sweeney-Todd 208 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 hw springer was the gun i went out with today had 5 pigeons with it but found it heavy after a while missed first one found lot of recoil and noise next gun going out with is stealth pcp so will let you now what i think :thumbs: Hi Boots. Well you certainly did well, 5 Pigeons, very good going mate, nice shooting Was the weight issue because you were cradling the rifle in your arms while walking about, you can get over most of that by attatching a sling. If its to heavy to aim and shoot, change for a lighter rifle if you think you wont get used to it. Most new Springers need a bit of time to bed in, normaly a 1000 pellets or so will see the rifle settling down. Most of the noise you hear is being transfered through the stock to your cheekbone, so sounds worse than it is. Get someone else to shoot it while you stand and listen. A lot of the twang can be quietened down with a decent tune, very worth while doing. Hope you enjoy your outing with the PCP Bill. Quote Link to post
boots 7 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 break barrel 22 Quote Link to post
boots 7 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 cheers bill suppose i could get a silencer for it couldnt i Quote Link to post
boots 7 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 weight was more than i thought it would be Quote Link to post
andyz 30 Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 To be honest at the end of the day you probably already know what you'd prefer. My opinion (for what it's worth) is to get a decent springer, enjoy it, feel the recoil and start building on your shooting technique. As it has previously been said, it's a lot easier to shoot a pcp than springer. That doesn't make one better than the other, just different. When you're happy with all of the above and you're sure the sport is for you then maybe save and go for a PCP setup, this will cost substancially more than just buying a spring powered rifle. There are a lot of good shooters out there shooting both springers and PCP's, the one thing they all have in common is the love for the sport. As for calibre..... .22 or .177 doesn't matter, learn the skills and you should easily be able to master both! Happy shooting. Andy 1 Quote Link to post
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