patterdalejoel 669 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 when people first cross collie greys, whippets etc to or to lujrcher blood, what do you ACTUALLY look for in te collie, ie what is the perfect collier to use? people always say working collie, but why? cheers, joel. Quote Link to post
Guest born to run1083 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 for me there's a list and if it's all not there then it's no good for me, I want good stamina and recovery, a good brain but highly driven, with alot of fire in there belly, great feet, and most of all worked, not so much on sheep but on actual quarry, on testing ground. would of wanted it to of been ferreting and lamped hard to test the collie under pressure and most of all season after season. my dam to my first x had all the above apart from she also went around sets with the old man as she would even draw. with collies I think it's the most important breed that needs to be tested to the max as if you find a food hard collie there really hard to beat Quote Link to post
sighthound123 31 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 because they have been worked over a period of years and any faults genetic or mental would of been known by then, breeding of a worker your more likely to get a worker breeding of a pet your more likely to get a pet that could have undesirable traits. Seen a lot of nervy collies and a lot of hyperactive collies, i would think a collie with a steady level head would be best and these are usually working collies. Quote Link to post
Blue one 89 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Make sure, it has, 4 legs, 2 eyes, 2 ears, a tail and some teeth. Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 A cock and a set of balls... Or a fully functioning fanny! Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,192 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 And must be a working Collie Quote Link to post
6pack 60 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Just ask - what does a working collie bring to the cross that a non worker doesn't? I thought collies were used to add some brain to the speed. Would you not still find that brain in a non worker? Would think you wouldn't want your lurcher herding bunnies Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) a working collie bred for generations to listen and take commands and follow them through or a collie that just looks like a collie,i know which one i prefare,, Edited September 15, 2011 by Casso Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 A working collie brings good feet, constitution, stamina and coat....... And for me working means a good farm dog, not a robotic trial dog...... Quote Link to post
Blue one 89 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 below is a good irish mountain farm collie Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Oh and the concentration levels are something else........ Quote Link to post
6pack 60 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Is it not hard to find a proper farm bred collie nowdays? Wouldn't some of the collies used for stuff like agility bring the same to the mix? Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 for me there's a list and if it's all not there then it's no good for me, I want good stamina and recovery, a good brain but highly driven, with alot of fire in there belly, great feet, and most of all worked, not so much on sheep but on actual quarry, on testing ground. would of wanted it to of been ferreting and lamped hard to test the collie under pressure and most of all season after season. my dam to my first x had all the above apart from she also went around sets with the old man as she would even draw. with collies I think it's the most important breed that needs to be tested to the max as if you find a food hard collie there really hard to beat So you don't think the life of a good hill farm collie is hard or testing enough season after season being worked on livestock day in day out? Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Is it not hard to find a proper farm bred collie nowdays? Wouldn't some of the collies used for stuff like agility bring the same to the mix? Trained a few Raiye, especially the waggerland line, they are very hyper and over excitable and imo a calmer farm dog would be a better proposition to base a lurcher on............ Quote Link to post
lurcher330 2,301 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) the collie blood that is based in my collie x was a good strong cattle working dog that was wicklow collie x border collie but to tell you truth i could tell you the difference between the wicklow and border collie Edited September 15, 2011 by lurcher330 Quote Link to post
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