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English and a Squaddy you can see the problem but hes good for a laugh

 

 

:laugh: Just make sure you're not in the car with him the next time he decides to park in the wrong place @ the supermarket.. :icon_eek::laugh:

 

 

He was told to bring a piece as i wasn't stopping at a shop in case he got banjo'd again and i had to take him to the hospital :laugh: :laugh:

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You'd enjoying yourselves there? Haha

 

I've no been asleep bobby I've been busy working until all hours on the Edinburgh tattoo. I'm no like you- the way you were shooting last time I would of swore you was asleep!

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You'd enjoying yourselves there? Haha

 

I've no been asleep bobby I've been busy working until all hours on the Edinburgh tattoo. I'm no like you- the way you were shooting last time I would of swore you was asleep!

 

Where can i get insurance for flying dummy tits ? hes throwing all his toys out the pram now :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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. Most carnivores, unless starving will leave the stomach/guts contents, as they next to no nutritional value.

 

Really :hmm: lions, wolves,hyenas, African hunting dogs and practically all carnivores will eat the guts and contents first :thumbs: for the same reason that a mother(to these animals) will regurgitate food for her offspring because its already partlally digested and conserves the energy used in denaturation of the food i.e the food is absorbed quicker into the body

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The survival situation for various carnivores is very different. Hyenas/lions/wolves etc bring down much larger prey than domesticated ferrets, and unlike ferrets, they hunt for survival. The smell of fermenting plant matter in the preys stomach attracts other predators to a kill (with lions and hyenas the young will be nearby, and are under threat from other predator species), so the stomach/intestines are either quickly eaten to help avoid competition over the kill, or the stomach/intestines will be buried to help eliminate the smell carrying. Lions and Hyenas do not reguritate for their young. Wild dog species such as wolves/wild hunting dogs rely on stamina to kill their prey, they usually bring down a kill miles from the pups at the den. Reguritation allows wild dogs to bring food to their young without having to defend a kill. The stomach is only part of the digestive tract, it does not breakdown/absorb all nutrients, hence mastication/saliva/stomach/large and small intestines and the term digestive tract.

 

. Most carnivores, unless starving will leave the stomach/guts contents, as they next to no nutritional value.

 

Really :hmm: lions, wolves,hyenas, African hunting dogs and practically all carnivores will eat the guts and contents first :thumbs: for the same reason that a mother(to these animals) will regurgitate food for her offspring because its already partlally digested and conserves the energy used in denaturation of the food i.e the food is absorbed quicker into the body

Y.I.S Leeview

 

The survival situation for various carnivores is very different. Hyenas/lions/wolves etc bring down much larger prey than domesticated ferrets, and unlike ferrets, they hunt for survival. The smell of fermenting plant matter in the preys stomach attracts other predators to a kill (with lions and hyenas the young will be nearby, and are under threat from other predator species), so the stomach/intestines are either quickly eaten to help avoid competition over the kill, or the stomach/intestines will be buried to help eliminate the smell carrying. Lions and Hyenas do not reguritate for their young. Wild dog species such as wolves/wild hunting dogs rely on stamina to kill their prey, they usually bring down a kill miles from the pups at the den. Reguritation allows wild dogs to bring food to their young without having to defend a kill. The stomach is only part of the digestive tract, it does not breakdown/absorb all nutrients, hence mastication/saliva/stomach/large and small intestines and the term digestive tract.

 

Ferrets,polecats, stoats and weasels bring down much larger prey than themselves in the wild mainly single handedly not in a pack :yes: and this is also to survive as they dont have access to stashes of complete "kibble" to fall back on

carrying "the stomach and intestine are quickly

"eaten to help avoid competition over the kill, or the stomach/intestines will be buried to help eliminate the smell " :hmm: the lions,wolves, AHD kills I've seen have been free for alls never seen any of them dragging the guts away to bury them their first object is to eat their fill and whats left is when the scavengers move in.

95% of nutrients are absorbed by the digestive tract by the time of defacation :yes: or else whats the point of eating something they get no beneficial gain from

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As I said, it is different for various carnivores. Polecats etc have burrows and so can hide their kill. Lions/hyenas etc don't have that privilege, plus unlike polecats/ferrets, they hunt in a pack and must gorge themselves on a kill. Polecats, like foxes stash a percentage of their food for harder times. Polecats tend to crush/puncture the skull to render excess prey paralysed but alive, and stash it in their burrow to have a supply of 'fresh meat' for their larder. For large predators, the abdominal cavity is the quickest way to reach the nutritious organs, the guts may be left to lower ranking pack members to scavenge as they are unable to get the best bits of the kill, answering why eating something of no nutritional benefit happens, they are simply filling their stomach/staving their hunger with what is discarded by high ranking pack members. Obviously, with a business, the pecking order dicates which ferret gets what. As far as burying the stomach goes and when or why it is done, find that out for yourself before you dismiss it.

 

The percentage of nutrients absorbed before defacation depends on what has been consumed.

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Obligate carnivores are incapable of digesting/breaking down cellulose, so peas etc are of no benefit whatsoever. Most carnivores, unless starving will leave the stomach/guts contents, as they next to no nutritional value.

 

Well I'll obligate you by telling you that if you put a whole rabbit in with ferrets that are used to eating whole carcass, they will eat the guts. I have no idea how long you have owned ferrets my little button flower, but I'm guessing not that long and you have a great many things to learn.

 

John

 

Thanks petal, I'll keep that in mind.

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Most carnivores, unless starving will leave the stomach/guts contents, as they next to no nutritional value.

 

 

 

Right oh then.. They get very little nutritional value from fur & feather but they eat it. Every time I've ever put a whole prey item in with my ferrets they've eaten the fecking lot, guts, beaks, fur, feather, the fecking lot.

 

Hold on, one minute you are arguing guts contain all the trace elements a ferret needs, if not chuck in a handful of peas, now you're arguing your ferrets eat whole prey? My ferrets and my hybrids eat whole prey too. What is your point?

there crosses not hybrids ?

Call it a cross or a hybrid, it's the same thing.

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Most carnivores, unless starving will leave the stomach/guts contents, as they next to no nutritional value.

 

 

 

Right oh then.. They get very little nutritional value from fur & feather but they eat it. Every time I've ever put a whole prey item in with my ferrets they've eaten the fecking lot, guts, beaks, fur, feather, the fecking lot.

 

Hold on, one minute you are arguing guts contain all the trace elements a ferret needs, if not chuck in a handful of peas, now you're arguing your ferrets eat whole prey? My ferrets and my hybrids eat whole prey too. What is your point?

 

My point is that sometimes I feed whole ungutted rabbits/birds/small mammals, sometimes I feed gutted rabbits & sometimes I feed chicken portions for periods. Therefore there's no need for the vitamin supplements you're telling folk they must feed their ferrets because my ferrets eat what nature intended them to eat.

 

The survival situation for various carnivores is very different. Hyenas/lions/wolves etc bring down much larger prey than domesticated ferrets, and unlike ferrets, they hunt for survival.

 

I don't know about you, but my ferrets certainly eat for survival, so what difference does it make whether or not they have to catch it or not?

 

Well, if you didn't supply the food they would starve. That's the difference between eating and hunting for survival.

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Most carnivores, unless starving will leave the stomach/guts contents, as they next to no nutritional value.

 

 

 

Right oh then.. They get very little nutritional value from fur & feather but they eat it. Every time I've ever put a whole prey item in with my ferrets they've eaten the fecking lot, guts, beaks, fur, feather, the fecking lot.

 

Hold on, one minute you are arguing guts contain all the trace elements a ferret needs, if not chuck in a handful of peas, now you're arguing your ferrets eat whole prey? My ferrets and my hybrids eat whole prey too. What is your point?

 

My point is that sometimes I feed whole ungutted rabbits/birds/small mammals, sometimes I feed gutted rabbits & sometimes I feed chicken portions for periods. Therefore there's no need for the vitamin supplements you're telling folk they must feed their ferrets because my ferrets eat what nature intended them to eat.

 

The survival situation for various carnivores is very different. Hyenas/lions/wolves etc bring down much larger prey than domesticated ferrets, and unlike ferrets, they hunt for survival.

 

I don't know about you, but my ferrets certainly eat for survival, so what difference does it make whether or not they have to catch it or not?

 

I have never said supplements are a must. I said it depends on the diet the ferret(s) already recieve.

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Thanks petal, I'll keep that in mind.

 

There we are, you can learn something new and when they said it was like educating pork and that you were not fit to lay with pigs, I stood up for you and said 'you can learn new things and yes you were fit to lay with pigs'.

 

John

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Sorry ferret100 I seem to be discussing different polecats to what you have experience of :whistling: the ones that live in BURROWS and BURY guts and intestines to avoid detection, and paralyse prey to stash away in their BURROWS

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Sorry ferret100 I seem to be discussing different polecats to what you have experience of :whistling: the ones that live in BURROWS and BURY guts and intestines to avoid detection, and paralyse prey to stash away in their BURROWS

Y.I.S Leeview

 

 

Maybe they're ferret crossed with spider, then they could paralyse their victims and eat them at will, have you never heard of SAS ferrets either :D

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Sorry ferret100 I seem to be discussing different polecats to what you have experience of :whistling: the ones that live in BURROWS and BURY guts and intestines to avoid detection, and paralyse prey to stash away in their BURROWS

Y.I.S Leeview

 

 

Maybe they're ferret crossed with spider, then they could paralyse their victims and eat them at will, have you never heard of SAS ferrets either :D

 

Are nt they the ones for the weekend ferreters :D Saturday And Sunday

Y.I.S Leeview

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Sorry ferret100 I seem to be discussing different polecats to what you have experience of :whistling: the ones that live in BURROWS and BURY guts and intestines to avoid detection, and paralyse prey to stash away in their BURROWS

Y.I.S Leeview

 

 

Maybe they're ferret crossed with spider, then they could paralyse their victims and eat them at will, have you never heard of SAS ferrets either :D

 

Are nt they the ones for the weekend ferreters :D Saturday And Sunday

Y.I.S Leeview

 

 

Yep, that's them, came with a free hamock from pets r us :D

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Sorry ferret100 I seem to be discussing different polecats to what you have experience of :whistling: the ones that live in BURROWS and BURY guts and intestines to avoid detection, and paralyse prey to stash away in their BURROWS

Y.I.S Leeview

 

WTF are you on about?

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