foxfan 479 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Verr are your papers ? show me ze papers ! diene papiren, schnell !! Its alright for them c**ts to stick cctv on every feckin lampost. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I,m not the biggest fan of the police , but why didn,t he just give his details , he wasn,t taking photos of historic monuments or nice scenic landscapes , he was in the shopping area , he could of been a peadophile or terrorist , and just because he wasn,t he could of understood the concerns it would cause and just give his details ffs ..apologies if it was RFYL maybe he values his human right to privacy and wants to retain it,regardless of what he could or could not of been doing he did not break a single law. Maybe he should of valued my right as a tax payer not to have my money wasted on tying up police time and recourses , when a name and address wold have settled it . the police wasted their time and your money not the citizen who wanted to retain his human rights. or should the police be allowed to commit any human rights violations they like if it saves time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davyt63 1,843 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 hi is that Carl pilkington in the video? Davy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 thing is with most people who immeaditly shout about thier human rights being violated,are either terrorists or just arrogant folk mostly left wing,and always looking for an argument.i dont see the problem by giving the cops my name.i would certainly ask afterwards to explain thier concern of me taking pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.DOG 1,355 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I must say he was calm and polite to those pigs I respect him for what he did I would have been very antisocial but I got no patience Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I,m not the biggest fan of the police , but why didn,t he just give his details , he wasn,t taking photos of historic monuments or nice scenic landscapes , he was in the shopping area , he could of been a peadophile or terrorist , and just because he wasn,t he could of understood the concerns it would cause and just give his details ffs ..apologies if it was RFYL maybe he values his human right to privacy and wants to retain it,regardless of what he could or could not of been doing he did not break a single law. Maybe he should of valued my right as a tax payer not to have my money wasted on tying up police time and recourses , when a name and address wold have settled it . the police wasted their time and your money not the citizen who wanted to retain his human rights. or should the police be allowed to commit any human rights violations they like if it saves time? well if they strapped me to table and atarted water boarding me,then yes i would say thats a violation of my rights.asling my name,well its hardly hurting me is it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stanleigh 135 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I,m not the biggest fan of the police , but why didn,t he just give his details , he wasn,t taking photos of historic monuments or nice scenic landscapes , he was in the shopping area , he could of been a peadophile or terrorist , and just because he wasn,t he could of understood the concerns it would cause and just give his details ffs ..apologies if it was RFYL maybe he values his human right to privacy and wants to retain it,regardless of what he could or could not of been doing he did not break a single law. Maybe he should of valued my right as a tax payer not to have my money wasted on tying up police time and recourses , when a name and address wold have settled it . the police wasted their time and your money not the citizen who wanted to retain his human rights. or should the police be allowed to commit any human rights violations they like if it saves time? mate . I don,t want to get into a civil liberties discussion , but asking for someones details because they are acting out of the ordinary in a town centre seems reasonable to me . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I,m not the biggest fan of the police , but why didn,t he just give his details , he wasn,t taking photos of historic monuments or nice scenic landscapes , he was in the shopping area , he could of been a peadophile or terrorist , and just because he wasn,t he could of understood the concerns it would cause and just give his details ffs ..apologies if it was RFYL maybe he values his human right to privacy and wants to retain it,regardless of what he could or could not of been doing he did not break a single law. Maybe he should of valued my right as a tax payer not to have my money wasted on tying up police time and recourses , when a name and address wold have settled it . the police wasted their time and your money not the citizen who wanted to retain his human rights. or should the police be allowed to commit any human rights violations they like if it saves time? well if they strapped me to table and atarted water boarding me,then yes i would say thats a violation of my rights.asling my name,well its hardly hurting me is it. no mate it does no harm to you (here and now) and if you want to answer thats fine,but the precedent cannot be set that we MUST answer when questioned by police because that could lead to some nasty shit. imo we're heading towards living in a police state and need to cling to the rights we still have,the police arresting people for holding on to those rights is imo a very bad sign. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I,m not the biggest fan of the police , but why didn,t he just give his details , he wasn,t taking photos of historic monuments or nice scenic landscapes , he was in the shopping area , he could of been a peadophile or terrorist , and just because he wasn,t he could of understood the concerns it would cause and just give his details ffs ..apologies if it was RFYL maybe he values his human right to privacy and wants to retain it,regardless of what he could or could not of been doing he did not break a single law. Maybe he should of valued my right as a tax payer not to have my money wasted on tying up police time and recourses , when a name and address wold have settled it . the police wasted their time and your money not the citizen who wanted to retain his human rights. or should the police be allowed to commit any human rights violations they like if it saves time? mate . I don,t want to get into a civil liberties discussion , but asking for someones details because they are acting out of the ordinary in a town centre seems reasonable to me . yes it is reasonable,it is also reasonable for him to not answer (as is his right) if there is probable cause that a crime is/was/will be committed then by all means they should be just as entitled to make an arrest as anyone other citizen,they should however expect to be held accountable for harassment,assault claims etc should they have been to hasty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 if you want to end up living in a police state,then if everyone thought the same way as you did.well im afraid you would be a lot closer to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 if you want to end up living in a police state,then if everyone thought the same way as you did.well im afraid you would be a lot closer to it. are you saying holding on to our rights is how we lose them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 if you want to end up living in a police state,then if everyone thought the same way as you did.well im afraid you would be a lot closer to it. are you saying holding on to our rights is how we lose them? ok blan,you are splitting hairs here.asking for a name is hardly an infrigement of your rights.going by oast threads you have posted,along the lines that you reckon all citizens should be armed for the day we need to rise up against the goverment.i would say you have a serious issue with any kind of authority mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 if you want to end up living in a police state,then if everyone thought the same way as you did.well im afraid you would be a lot closer to it. are you saying holding on to our rights is how we lose them? ok blan,you are splitting hairs here.asking for a name is hardly an infrigement of your rights.going by oast threads you have posted,along the lines that you reckon all citizens should be armed for the day we need to rise up against the goverment.i would say you have a serious issue with any kind of authority mate. i think we need less government power and influence in our lives,most on here would agree. why would the government allow that when the ones who run it can profit from their intervention,and how do we stop them intervening further? i didnt say asking for your name was an infringement of anyone's rights,but arresting someone for not answering clearly is (without probable cause being established). all i want is freedom to do what i want as long as im not stopping anyone else doing the same,whats wrong with that? ive had enough of being a government slave/mercenary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 if you want to end up living in a police state,then if everyone thought the same way as you did.well im afraid you would be a lot closer to it. are you saying holding on to our rights is how we lose them? ok blan,you are splitting hairs here.asking for a name is hardly an infrigement of your rights.going by oast threads you have posted,along the lines that you reckon all citizens should be armed for the day we need to rise up against the goverment.i would say you have a serious issue with any kind of authority mate. i think we need less government power and influence in our lives,most on here would agree. why would the government allow that when the ones who run it can profit from their intervention,and how do we stop them intervening further? i didnt say asking for your name was an infringement of anyone's rights,but arresting someone for not answering clearly is (without probable cause being established). all i want is freedom to do what i want as long as im not stopping anyone else doing the same,whats wrong with that? ive had enough of being a government slave/mercenary. well you need to just accept it.you will make yourself ill worrying about it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 The way i see it, is by their actions the police are intimating that everyone is a potential nonce or terrorist. A slippery slope imo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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