baldockbanks courser 598 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 just read a post saying coursing men who own long dogs. ? firstlie i think long dogs has been made up and used by the likes of plummber and others (not Darcy) who write books because they keep collie cross dogs. and try to portray other crosses as brainless athletes. by writes id say only the traditional a herding dog x gry or whips a true lurcher. i class mine as lurchers, not many coursing breed dogs if you follow the lines back wont have breeds other than sight hound in. if they can do a day or nights work there a lurcher theres anoth divids as ther is! 1 Quote Link to post
HiLost 32 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 well said agree with that totally the name longdog is quite an old fashioned name and not many people use it nowadays theyre all lurchers imo Quote Link to post
Kay 3,709 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I think Longdog was just a name used to describe crosses lacking herding blood in the mix Quote Link to post
riohog 5,939 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longdog Quote Link to post
biza hollis 27 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 a longdog is any type or breed of running dog eg greyhound,deerhound.whippit,saluki,bozoi.etc crossed with each other a lurcher is a running dog cross eg terriers,herding dogs ,or any other breed basically hope thats cleared it up a bit or helped atb biza Quote Link to post
mackay 3,700 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Most greyhoundy shaped dogs are capable of catching game if given the opportunity and have enough game put in front of them, but if you want to define the true meaning and the original job that said lurchers were intended to do then to my mind saluli, borzoi and all the exotic crosses whilst they have their own specialist traits, they are not lurchers in the true sense of the word. Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) One thing I really like about the running dog world is it doesnt matter what a dog looks like or how its bred, all that matters is how well it grafts. Now all this "thats not a 'true' lurcher, its a longdog" or vice versa is aload of bollocks! If ya wanna get technical then yes they are different with obviously a margin a grey area inbeteween. But who really gives a feck? We breed and work running dogs (whatever you wish to call em) to suit our own specific needs and preferences and at the end of the day if the dog fits the bill of a running dog and can catch its quarry on the run then I think you are entitled to call it what ever you want, and feck the purists! Edited December 16, 2010 by Born Hunter 3 Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,260 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longdog A simple explanation. Quote Link to post
whip x grey 276 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longdog A simple explanation. i agree but certain sighthound crosses ,,,,are defenilty quicker,,,,,THAT IS THE MAIN DIFFRENCE BETWEEN ,,,LURCHER AND LONG DOG ( u can breed a long dog to be quicker than lurcher and ped whippet,,,,,and as been proved more recently just as quick or faster than the advrege pure greyhound there speed to be had,,,,with a long dog,,,,,,,,if u can get both speed and stamia and speed ,,,,hold on to that longdog,,as its very hard to get both I FEEL SORRY FOR LONGDOGS,,,,AS THERE SHUNDED WITH PEDIGREE BREED,S ,,,,BUT ARE (JUST ) ACEPTED TO THE LURCHER BREED,,,,,( THEY SOMTIMES HAVE NO WHERE TO GO ,,,,IN RACING AND HUNTING,,,,,BUT LURCHERS EXCEPT THEM,,,,IF THEY DIDNT THEY WOULD FLOAT BETWEEN PEDGREE AND LURCHER,S ( WITH NO WHERE TO GO ),,,,,BUT ARE GOOD DOGS IN THERE OWN RIGHT BUT NOT EVERYONES CUP OFF TEA Quote Link to post
whip x grey 276 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I FORGOT TO ADD,,,LOL THIS SHOULD CAUSE STICK,,LOL BARR THE GREYHOUND AND SULIKI,,DEER HOUNDS ECT ECT ECT ( IE SIGHTHOUNDS ) LONGDOG ( GREYHOUND X SULKI ,,,,OR GREY X WHIPET OR MORE SIGHTHOUNDS ECT , ECT , ECT ) LIST GOES ON TEND TO BE BETTER HARE DOG,S ,,,( I,E FAST WINTER HARE,S ,,,,THAN ANY OTHER LURCHER BREED,,,,OR CERTAIN PEDIGREE BREEDS,,,I,E SHOW WHIPPETS ,,THAT CANT RUN ,,,,ECT ECT ECT SINGLE HANDED,,,,,,NOT TWO OR 3 O MORE DOGS RUNNING POOR HARE,,,, I,E PROBER COURING DOGS ,,,,RATHER THAN SEND IN THE WHOLE PACK ( IAM GOING TO GET SOME STICK FOR THIS ,,,,ITS MY LAST REPLY ON TOPIC,,,,POST AWAY,,, Quote Link to post
riohog 5,939 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I FORGOT TO ADD,,,LOL THIS SHOULD CAUSE STICK,,LOL BARR THE GREYHOUND AND SULIKI,,DEER HOUNDS ECT ECT ECT ( IE SIGHTHOUNDS ) LONGDOG ( GREYHOUND X SULKI ,,,,OR GREY X WHIPET OR MORE SIGHTHOUNDS ECT , ECT , ECT ) LIST GOES ON TEND TO BE BETTER HARE DOG,S ,,,( I,E FAST WINTER HARE,S ,,,,THAN ANY OTHER LURCHER BREED,,,,OR CERTAIN PEDIGREE BREEDS,,,I,E SHOW WHIPPETS ,,THAT CANT RUN ,,,,ECT ECT ECT SINGLE HANDED,,,,,,NOT TWO OR 3 O MORE DOGS RUNNING POOR HARE,,,, I,E PROBER COURING DOGS ,,,,RATHER THAN SEND IN THE WHOLE PACK ( IAM GOING TO GET SOME STICK FOR THIS ,,,,ITS MY LAST REPLY ON TOPIC,,,,POST AWAY,,, really now who told you that? Quote Link to post
terrierjohn 49 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 imo a longdog or the term long dog is just a name given to lurchers wih a long back and is more often used to describe hare coursing dogs whereas the smaller types ie beddy whippet crosses etc which are shorter in the back are not put into the category as a longdog but are 2 of the same thing at the end of the day lurchers Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longdog A simple explanation. Quote Link to post
black recking it 730 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I FORGOT TO ADD,,,LOL THIS SHOULD CAUSE STICK,,LOL BARR THE GREYHOUND AND SULIKI,,DEER HOUNDS ECT ECT ECT ( IE SIGHTHOUNDS ) LONGDOG ( GREYHOUND X SULKI ,,,,OR GREY X WHIPET OR MORE SIGHTHOUNDS ECT , ECT , ECT ) LIST GOES ON TEND TO BE BETTER HARE DOG,S ,,,( I,E FAST WINTER HARE,S ,,,,THAN ANY OTHER LURCHER BREED,,,,OR CERTAIN PEDIGREE BREEDS,,,I,E SHOW WHIPPETS ,,THAT CANT RUN ,,,,ECT ECT ECT SINGLE HANDED,,,,,,NOT TWO OR 3 O MORE DOGS RUNNING POOR HARE,,,, I,E PROBER COURING DOGS ,,,,RATHER THAN SEND IN THE WHOLE PACK ( IAM GOING TO GET SOME STICK FOR THIS ,,,,ITS MY LAST REPLY ON TOPIC,,,,POST AWAY,,, stick to your rag chasers ya bam lol you on that home made soup again lol? Quote Link to post
bradaz2009 9 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 longdogs are a pure breed or a cross between any of the long dogs but lurchers were created to hunt but not to look like a running dog(longdog) back in the days when it was illegal for normal folk to hunt but now longdogs are just racing machines imo or show dogs and lurchers are or should be bred worker to worker(best to best) and remember speed aint everything normally if they got good top end speed they lack on the turn..... Well thats my oppinion anyway Quote Link to post
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