x38 179 Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 how many of you honestley think that after basic training recall etc... you can honestley take the credit for your dog doing his/ her job, once youve sliped it do you really think that its what you`ve done........ or is it the breeding...... i can put my hand on my heart and honestley say that once the dog has been slipped its on his/her own. me personaly will never say i made that dog do that. but this comes down to whats in the dog. dont you think??? good breeding. lets be honest once the dogs has gone its on its own.... Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 i belive you can improve the chances of it doing the right thing once slipped by given loads a confidence as a youngster but like you say, you can train a pup, but when its slipped its on its own, its instinct Quote Link to post
stainlee 27 Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 You can,t take the credit for what is inherent in your dog , but by feeding , exercising , housing and looking after it,s welfare to the best of your ability , you can enable to give of his best . ATB Quote Link to post
TOMO 28,772 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 ITS SIMPLES REALY.............. if any of the pups i have bred and gone to other people and turn out great,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, then ile take the credit ................ if there no good ile blame the owner any of my dogs i have bought in and turn out half desent , i take the credit Quote Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 how many of you honestley think that after basic training recall etc... you can honestley take the credit for your dog doing his/ her job, once youve sliped it do you really think that its what you`ve done........ or is it the breeding...... i can put my hand on my heart and honestley say that once the dog has been slipped its on his/her own. me personaly will never say i made that dog do that. but this comes down to whats in the dog. dont you think??? good breeding. lets be honest once the dogs has gone its on its own.... theres folk i know who have always had decent dogs, there is folk i know who always seem to have below average dogs and never seem to do any better than average, i think the owner plays a part in bringing it out of the dog but the dog does the rest. Quote Link to post
blue staffy 145 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 good dogs are born not made , the best dog man in the world wont make a bad 1 work but there plenty half wits will waste a good dog by not puting in the time Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 good dogs are born not made , the best dog man in the world wont make a bad 1 work but there plenty half wits will waste a good dog by not puting in the time So why do people use bloodlines then? Quote Link to post
riohog 5,938 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 how many of you honestley think that after basic training recall etc... you can honestley take the credit for your dog doing his/ her job, once youve sliped it do you really think that its what you`ve done........ or is it the breeding...... i can put my hand on my heart and honestley say that once the dog has been slipped its on his/her own. me personaly will never say i made that dog do that. but this comes down to whats in the dog. dont you think??? good breeding. lets be honest once the dogs has gone its on its own.... well bred dogs , ie worker to worker .. will generally have an advantage , geneticly . . but ultimatly the owner has to give it the oppertunatys to to show thatit is good at the job ... in different situations, ...it wont learn alot about hunting in the kennell you got to get them ouy Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 How do you know how good your dog is if its just used on the lamp? or just used to ferret? i agree breeding has a lot to do with potential in a dog but its the owner that discovers the potential through giving the dog experiences. and its the owner who enhances the dogs experiences by providing care and training. As always with dogs and men its a joint venture, a journey of trust, ability and understanding. i have my little dog to use with the ferrets but she was out a few times last week just around the doors with my lad on the lamp and got her first rabbit on friday night. it doesnt mean a lot to me but the dog will be all the better for the experience Quote Link to post
fresh earth 47 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 If you ask me its down to how you rear it i have owned whippets from the best show stock in the country that has never seen a lure or rabbit through generations and at 9 or so months the dog was pulling the odd hare and bag fulls of rabbits. Put any running dog onto its quarry at the right time with the proper feeding and fitnes and it will take it whether its from lightning stock or a pure bred collie it will and can take regular game. Obviously worker tio worker should mean = worker but realisticaly it is not always nescesary . Kris Quote Link to post
pukerk 161 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT!! Quote Link to post
RossM 8,149 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 example, you get a dog, breedings there but its came from a pet home, now its 3yrs old in its prime so it should work coz the breedings there? what if it doesnt? why? now you take your run of the mill mongrel thing (i know lurchers are technically mongrels) its out most days running around with the terriers and lurchers, this thing is picking up rabbits, but the breedings not there? me personally think its down to how the owner works them how often, what with, how its entered ect....... i agree that once slipped its all down to the dog, when to turn when to strike we dont have a say in that but i dont agree that its all down to the breeding. 2 Quote Link to post
horizon hunter 6 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 example, you get a dog, breedings there but its came from a pet home, now its 3yrs old in its prime so it should work coz the breedings there? what if it doesnt? why? now you take your run of the mill mongrel thing (i know lurchers are technically mongrels) its out most days running around with the terriers and lurchers, this thing is picking up rabbits, but the breedings not there? me personally think its down to how the owner works them how often, what with, how its entered ect....... i agree that once slipped its all down to the dog, when to turn when to strike we dont have a say in that but i dont agree that its all down to the breeding. Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Once the dogs up and running good breeding imho determines its style and natrual running ability. Quote Link to post
RossM 8,149 Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 another question, where does the original breeding come from if its all in the breeding? or is the breeding just a dog that was good at it? lol 1 Quote Link to post
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