Malt 379 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 No wonder people are so quick to disbelieve the official line whenever there's a hint of a conspiracy in the US... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11514210 Maybe it would have been better to send the SAS in after one of our own.. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeakOil 352 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 It is the price we proles must pay in order to keep Mr Blair in multi million pound 'consultancy' roles at American banks. That Liberty medal don't come cheap you know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
"Earth!" 503 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 No wonder people are so quick to disbelieve the official line whenever there's a hint of a conspiracy in the US... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11514210 Maybe it would have been better to send the SAS in after one of our own.. . at least the job would have been carried out professionally Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brassneck 128 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 No wonder people are so quick to disbelieve the official line whenever there's a hint of a conspiracy in the US... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11514210 Maybe it would have been better to send the SAS in after one of our own.. . at least the job would have been carried out professionally typical , feckin yanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mangy1983 51 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 She actually lived a couple of miles away from me on the Isle of Lewis in Mangersta, Uig when she wasn't abroad. Her family still stay here and as far as I'm aware she is the first casualty from the Western Isles in the Afghan conflict that I know of and l hope the last... cheers Callum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I feel sorry for the family but I think these people should not be out there and I also question risking the lives of soldiers to attempt to rescue them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Proffitt 142 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 No wonder people are so quick to disbelieve the official line whenever there's a hint of a conspiracy in the US... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11514210 Maybe it would have been better to send the SAS in after one of our own.. . at least the job would have been carried out professionally Maybe,maybe not.... http://www.eliteukforces.info/special-air-service/sas-operations/basra-raid/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 No wonder people are so quick to disbelieve the official line whenever there's a hint of a conspiracy in the US... http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-11514210 Maybe it would have been better to send the SAS in after one of our own.. . at least the job would have been carried out professionally Maybe,maybe not.... http://www.eliteukfo...ons/basra-raid/ Aaron, please don't think that I was having a go at you guys over there. Your lads put their lives at risk to try to rescue that woman, it's more the way the story was handled by the American news agencies that got to me.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 a complete balls up ... using hand grenades in a closed environment for hostage rescue is a NO NO ... flash bangs or stun grenades should have been used ... non lethal but every bit as effective ... gung ho yanks balls up yet another mission ....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) a complete balls up ... using hand grenades in a closed environment for hostage rescue is a NO NO ... flash bangs or stun grenades should have been used ... non lethal but every bit as effective ... gung ho yanks balls up yet another mission ....... why chris ryan in your avatar Edited October 11, 2010 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Ok going to be contraversial here...........I'm NEVER one to support the ham shanks but lets put this in to context here. You've got a group of guys trying the damnest to save a lass who arguably shouldn't have been there.....Its a fire fight your adrenalin is busting veins and you have got no idea waht you're up against. Mistakes will happen in a fluid environment like that. They are surprisingly very few and far between. They didn't do it deliberatley and they will have to live with it for the rest of their lives. The bottom line is that a small minority of ejit fanaticals put that poor woman in that position and the more we knock the allied forces the greater their PR So lets give sympathy where it belongs. To the poor womans family and the soldiers (yank or otherwise) who risked their lives TRYING to save her from a more horrendous death! rant over nings Swampy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyfr1968 772 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Ok going to be contraversial here...........I'm NEVER one to support the ham shanks but lets put this in to context here. You've got a group of guys trying the damnest to save a lass who arguably shouldn't have been there.....Its a fire fight your adrenalin is busting veins and you have got no idea waht you're up against. Mistakes will happen in a fluid environment like that. They are surprisingly very few and far between. They didn't do it deliberatley and they will have to live with it for the rest of their lives. The bottom line is that a small minority of ejit fanaticals put that poor woman in that position and the more we knock the allied forces the greater their PR So lets give sympathy where it belongs. To the poor womans family and the soldiers (yank or otherwise) who risked their lives TRYING to save her from a more horrendous death! rant over nings Swampy Very well said, Swampy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Spot on swampy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 My mistake......Didn't realise there were so many experts on tactical warfare on here. You've obviously got inside information on the whole exercise or perhaps you were there yourself? You must be worried about leaking information like that! No matter waht your political stance on Afghanistan is do you honestly think that its OK to trivialise something as personal as someones death? A little knowledge is a dangerous thing ning Swampy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
readie 184 Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 My mistake......Didn't realise there were so many experts on tactical warfare on here. You've obviously got inside information on the whole exercise or perhaps you were there yourself? You must be worried about leaking information like that! No matter waht your political stance on Afghanistan is do you honestly think that its OK to trivialise something as personal as someones death? A little knowledge is a dangerous thing ning Swampy ive a little knowledge swampy,after 10 yrs in the british forces the last thing i would want is the fooking gung ho americans to come looking for me.do you have more than 10 yrs experience in the forces,or more than likely as well as others you know nothing and write shite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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