stormyboy 1,352 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) There is a lot of shouting about breeding worker to worker,using proven dogs etc. When is a dog or bitch "proven" to be deemed suitable to breed from? What age? How much experience makes a dog? Lets hear your views. Edited October 24, 2009 by stormyboy Quote Link to post
Thomsons dogs 37 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 if you have a dog and all depends on its job with few good seasons under belt you will no if good at its jobif proven to you or other people but its your opinion that count at end of day if you dont no proven you may never no just my opinion pal Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 I know proven mate. Just interested to know others definition. Some say 2-3 seasons, some more,some less. Depends on the sort of work? Its very open to interpretation. Quote Link to post
gazzer 1 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 i have witnessed very young dogs ratting.....they have been thrown in the deep end and managed to get lucky on a huge chicken farm,the place gets bulldozed twice a year...take an untrained dog the first time, hundreds of rats, the dog tires easily but soon twigs as to what to do......second time around, the dogs were taken out to rest as they just couldnt get enough, battered to peices and exhausted...............my dog on the other hand....has had to suss a lot more out as weve been on hard mooches on pretty dry farm where we are out all day for a dozen rats.....training a dog is so much easier on a bumperday at the chicken farm than it is getting him to focus on getting his head down,sniffing,digging and chasing.........which dog is worth more ,??or is more "proven".....the one thats killed a hundred rats in two outings or one thats mooched 8 times for a dozen or so each time??? Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Thats exactly what i'm getting at. I know which would probably be the better HUNTER! then theres those that would say ratting is no test of a dog. (Like its some kind of competition!) What gives a dog the accolade of being proven? Quote Link to post
MAIN MAN 277 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Thats exactly what i'm getting at. I know which would probably be the better HUNTER! then theres those that would say ratting is no test of a dog. (Like its some kind of competition!) What gives a dog the accolade of being proven? everyone is different and so are terriers! most dogs will kill rats but it takes a different animal to stay underground in the pitch black for hours with something thats the same size!! steel its called! Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 would that be proven rabbit dog . proven ratter. proven earthdog. if earthdog. proven stayer/bolter. or killer. and last but not least proven sire proven is like the word game its open to individual interpretation, my interpretation of proven. is a terrier that has served its apprenticeship at its chosen task for a few seasons and can do that job consistantly and well. good post Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 None of your dogs are proven until Moo says so.....he's the Simon Cowel of working dogs Quote Link to post
mike cunningham 8 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Thats exactly what i'm getting at. I know which would probably be the better HUNTER! then theres those that would say ratting is no test of a dog. (Like its some kind of competition!) What gives a dog the accolade of being proven? everyone is different and so are terriers! most dogs will kill rats but it takes a different animal to stay underground in the pitch black for hours with something thats the same size!! steel its called! main man you are spot on i had my black and tan on a fox for half an hour and i thought he was spot on only 3 foot down next time it took 2 and a half hours and six foot down to me a workinr g terrier is a digging terrier and not a ratting one atb mate mike. Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 would that be proven rabbit dog . proven ratter. proven earthdog. if earthdog. proven stayer/bolter. or killer.and last but not least proven sire proven is like the word game its open to individual interpretation, my interpretation of proven. is a terrier that has served its apprenticeship at its chosen task for a few seasons and can do that job consistantly and well. good post there is nothing further to add to this statement other than in my case ,lurcher not terrier, spot on mate end of Quote Link to post
WILF 44,479 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 After 3 digs and 5 minutes......then its pups from 100% worker! Quote Link to post
Chancer 23 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 After 3 digs and 5 minutes......then its pups from 100% worker! and 21 seconds Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 After 3 digs and 5 minutes......then its pups from 100% worker!tell you what wilf if your dogs were as smart as your mouth then you could actually be worth listening too but for a man with a dodgey chocolate drop you do some mouthing so take your head out of your ass because there actually a few decent men on this site who know what there talking about you tool look forward too your reply Quote Link to post
chezney 44 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 After 3 digs and 5 minutes......then its pups from 100% worker!tell you what wilf if your dogs were as smart as your mouth then you could actually be worth listening too but for a man with a dodgey chocolate drop you do some mouthing so take your head out of your ass because there actually a few decent men on this site who know what there talking about you tool look forward too your reply Quote Link to post
digaman 0 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 After 3 digs and 5 minutes......then its pups from 100% worker!tell you what wilf if your dogs were as smart as your mouth then you could actually be worth listening too but for a man with a dodgey chocolate drop you do some mouthing so take your head out of your ass because there actually a few decent men on this site who know what there talking about you tool look forward too your reply You are bashing Wilf's mouth but you cannot imagine how many people advertising their pups as 'worker' after a mentioned 5 minutes long experience. Disgusting. Quote Link to post
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