about 4 times mate.. but i forgot to mention, he'l lamp sitters if there in the same field as me, it's when there other fields and he has to jump gate or fence etc.. he'l get over, jog half way down, stand and look about and come back ready for the lead, but if the sitter starts to run he'l run it with 110% effort. HD
get him in the same field at least you will be sending him off down the road on his own next chances are he carnt see it