yes i have to agree with sounder on this one, same old over and over again,and the same few members ruining topics, i was going to say a useall friday night on thl, but its not, its just a useall night on the lurcher section, if members cant pull it together the topic is GONE!! sad really for shadow who started the topic to get a decent descussion going but people dont seem to respect that like many other threads they ruin, but enough is enough these same members will have to learn the hard way simple as if you dont respect another mans topic then we have no other option only to carry out puni