In my eye's & this is the honest truth for once lol 25 & older is where i would start the man has worked like a ''predator'' as been said earlier ,this piece of shite has wormed his way into a ''Vulnerably girl's mind'' & took full advantage like a ''Fcuking JUDAS'' simple as that , i cant have ''Judasing'' in any manor, Noncies are bullying judasing evil basttards