Yea I know kelvin had bill taz's brother, he was bred how I said not Charlie x pure saluki, I seen the mother to bill and taz run after she had that litter and it was her first run back after the pups, she had a longish slip on a plough and just as she was getting to the hare she tripped up on the plough and broke her neck and was killed stone dead, shame she cud of produced sum more good pups