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Tyson curred out on the best opponents he faced.....Joe Frazier put on some of the gutsiest displays ever seen against the best opponents he faced have you never heard the saying " its how you lose that matters "......Tunney feather fisted come on you dont really subscribe to the thought that a masterful boxer cant punch do you...where would that leave you with your all time great Michael Spinks then ?.......and what ever possessed you to put a masterful boxer like Lewis above your man Tyson if thats your thinking ?....and as for Vitali Klitchko i,ll give you the benefit of the doubt and call
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Because they both fought in the biggest fights of the century against all time great fighters and won..........Tyson didnt......They both took part in such exciting battles that went down as " fight of the century " .....Tyson didnt. Dempsey generated the first million dollar gate in history,up until Ali,s era Ring Magazine listed him as the second greatest heavyweight ever,he changed the sport from a defensive 1 punch holding contest to all out aggressive action. Frazier had the greatest rivalry in world sport with the greatest fighter ever and had 3 very close fights winning one of the
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1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Marciano 4. Foreman 5. Holmes 6. Johnson 7. Lewis 8. Vitali 9. Holyfield 10. Tyson
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I don't understand how you can put Dempsey and Frazier above Tyson?? What's your reasons for that?
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Probably about the same as you 10/11......i wouldnt have him down to beat many above him head to head though simply taking eras into account.......lets face it Klitcsko would probably batter Jack Dempsey but you could never place him higher. Now how about Michael Spinks ? Come on then let's see your Top 10.
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All Don King fighters you mean .....only Holmes of those names wasnt on the sniff for most of the decade !........answer me this as truthfully as you can........apart from Holyfield v Dokes which was a good fight......name me 1 heavyweight title fight in the ,s that was an exciting competetive fight ? Marvis Frazier vs Bonecrusher Weaver vs Coetzee Holmes vs Cooney Witherspoon vs Page Holyfield vs Thomas Holyfield vs Stewart Holmes vs Witherspoon Holmes vs Bonecrusher Dokes vs Weaver II Tyson vs Biggs Berbick vs Pinklon Thomas Bone Crusher vs Bruno Weaver vs John Tate Coetz
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I say again....a jab is not a tool if its not thrown.....Tommy Hearns had an amazing jab but it wasnt amazing if he didnt throw it !!.......I enjoy these type of boxing natters mate but i really dont have the inclination to trawl through fighters records looking for the age of their opponents im merely going on memory......i guess if you are going to class Michael Spinks as an all time great heavyweight then we might as well class Holyfield/Mercer/Tua/your man Tucker........Walcott/Farr/Braddock/Schmaeling/Sharkey/Ketchel........Witherspoon/Weaver/Norton the same....no ?........... .Lewis,Loui
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The ,s was a terrible era for heavyweight boxing regardless of the individuals it was all about Don King....most of the fights he staged for the Wbc and Wba he didnt care who won or lost because he owned them both and was robbing them both blind he completely devalued the heavyweight championship of the world.....apart from the fact most of those heavyweights were coked up to the eyeballs many of them didnt train hard or fight hard as they knew they was being stitched up purse wise it was Don Kings heyday he had not only the division sewn up but also the governing bodies....Look at the way he
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I know they use to hold one in March at Highgate Dog Track, don't know if it's still on though..
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I've got the 4k tt tv box, not sure on running it on wifi, I plug and Ethernet cable into mine and never have problemsI have to use wifi as my room tv and bedroom tv are not near the phone line.I'm sure you can buy home plugs, one goes into your box and one goes into your router, so it works like off the Ethernet cable I'm lost here, so I can have the box plugged into my TV away from my router and it will still work??
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Yeah but would you get to keep your natural skin colour or have to turn into a milk bottle??
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DogFox123 replied to Joe1888's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
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Of course it is......but it has to work both ways and when Tyson was up against it he folded.....thats typical bully mentality,due to his iconic nature in some folks eyes they are willing to skim over that and give him excuses.........you keep talking about Holmes vulnerability to a right hand but you dont mention Tysons failure to be able to get round a good jab to land that right hand......and we,re not talking about an average jab.......if you are classing Michael Spinks and Tony Tucker as all time great heavyweights then thats stretching the imagination a little too far dont you think.
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The ,s was a terrible era for heavyweight boxing regardless of the individuals it was all about Don King....most of the fights he staged for the Wbc and Wba he didnt care who won or lost because he owned them both and was robbing them both blind he completely devalued the heavyweight championship of the world.....apart from the fact most of those heavyweights were coked up to the eyeballs many of them didnt train hard or fight hard as they knew they was being stitched up purse wise it was Don Kings heyday he had not only the division sewn up but also the governing bodies....Look at the way he
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I've got the 4k tt tv box, not sure on running it on wifi, I plug and Ethernet cable into mine and never have problems I have to use wifi as my room tv and bedroom tv are not near the phone line.
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Which is the best model of box and what's it like to stream using wifi?
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No......you was right the first time..... ive had many conversations with Frank over the years about those fights and he willingly admits he was intimidated by not only the man but the occasion itself......for want of a better expression he froze and simply never got his shots off.....A great quality Tyson had was the relaxed intensity he could get in a ring with ( natural fighting mentality )......Frank never had that natural fighting mentality and much as he had the intensity it was never relaxed and being so draining its partly why after 3 rounds he was mentally and physically spent. Im n
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Because as you rightly say they didnt throw it !!!......Ive been on the recieving end of many a Frank Bruno jab and i tell you this for nothing its no fun !!....But same as the others he barely threw it and certainly with no conviction.....and yes for the reasons you state.........but similarly to what you say about " since when has being labelled a hard puncher made you a world class fighter".....well since when has being " scarey " made you a world class fighter ? What happened when Tyson started fighting people who were not scared of him ?.....oh wait i guess its time to bring the excuses
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I fully agree, I think the 80's era gets some unfair stick tbh. Heavyweights these days make the likes of Tony Tubbs and co look like Adonis's, a much better quality of fighters than today IMO.
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Holmes was dropped heavily by Snipes and Shavers, mark my words Tyson would have always beat him. Take a look at how piss poor Shavers is at trying to put him away, Tyson was a finisher of a different level...
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Now your just being silly......Holmes had probably the best jab in the divisions history and Tyson never could get past a decent jab.....and had no plan b to do so. If you can tell me what round Thomas threw 1 ( yes just one ) effective punch i,ll go back and watch it.....but as with many of those other journeyman champions they were merely surviving not competing. As for Shavers.....if Ali says he was the hardest puncher in history thats good enough for me to class him as a better than average fighter......i can never see what folk like yourself base your theories on regards Tysons grea
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Thomas didnt throw a punch in 6 rounds theres no excuse or reason for that in a boxing match.....Williams wasnt allowed to continue after a flash knockdown.......you keep saying Shavers was an average fighter personally id say any man who is universally recognised as the hardest puncher in history has to go down as slightly above average......and to be honest ive not seen the scorecards but the reality is he was extended by very average fighters !.....It doesnt take an expert to see the type of opponents Tyson struggled with i fail to see any reason to think the best Tyson could of beat the be
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And what makes you think Mayweather hasn't took PED's?? He's also a 5 weight Champion...
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Typical tactic of a cheat though, accuse everyone else so nobody looks at you. I'd put my money on them both having taken PED's tbh.
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Why the hell should he bend over and do things out of the ordinary just to settle Mayweathers paranoia?? Funny how the man Mayweather was basically saying was giving Manny PED's is now working for Mayweather....
