skycat an northernlite well done for trying to get the guy sorted, i firmly beleive that a pup is the best way to go, im not saying folk should never get an older dog, but a pup makes far more sense to me for the reasons skycat has already pointed out, there is also a litter of pups advertised on here, normaly i wouldnt tell anybody to buy a pup off this site, but in this case i know an can/will vouch for lamp+battery an his dogs, so much so that my ferreting partner has got himself 1, an only reason i never is i got a pup on now, take skycat or northernlites offer mate, either that or go an h