na mate, for some that cross widane cut it, if i was on big land a few days a week then id leave a sal/grey x coll/grey in the kennel, some will be able to hack it, but i doubt most would, i dont run big land an i mainy lamp an ferret, an i found the coll/grey x sal/grey a good dog to have, i think many a lamping dogs wont go far wrong way some well bred coursing dog added, not just the collie x