I did say that they were the best 'LOOKING' dogs at the Welsh.I didn't get to speak to the owners,so I don't know anything about there working ability,but,I will say,it was my time at the Welsh,and,I was flabbergasted at the pure amount of real working dogs/people.It really is a show like the old ones that used to be everywhere(local shows)just for the working people/dogs.Even the Midland has become something else lately,so,the show was a breath of fresh air,and I thoroughly enjoyed it.