Ditch, i to are starting to think about mincing my own, i buy packs of frozen meat etc for the dogs, and to be honest it looks like shite, then again tonight i came home with eighty five rabbits that will more likely than not end up as compost for growing stuff on, then theres squirrels ,venison trimmings, tripes etc all readily available just needs mincing and packaging, and i am for some strange reason paying 50p a pack for frozen muck, time to start looking for an industrial mincer.