if i'm honest i've forgot was in blokes house for an hour chatting about dogs, was looking over dam when i asked but cant remember what he said, i wouldnt have know them anyway, dam was a cracker, lovely broad head, nice and stong, 6 pups altogether, 2 died at birth, i got his phone number and i'll ring him and ask again, was looking over his 9 lurchers, very nice bloke, very helpful loved talking about his dogs, dont we all.
Have called and he's Nuttal x Wheeler. Cheers.