well said merle 24, you dont need a designer label (bloodlines) to make your dog be any better, a friend of mine bought a dog down devizes way, an old rough coated dog, most of you on the site will no the dog, probably one of the best dogs ive seen run in my life and the dogs name MULLER and he had no famous bloodlines. the dogs either got it or they haven`t. Ive had NIPPER breeding dogs and they turned out crap.