Totally agree with that.
Also Kippers old dogs, "Tramp" and "cruiser" were both good consistent animals,there was also a black dog "Scout" that won a northern comp i think it was the 89-90 season,can't quite remember the owners name,but pretty sure he was from Bury/Heywood area.
..Ben
Bolly owned Scout, got him off a lad in Bury at 18 months old and the young dog had seen nothing. He was a genuine 3/4 bred, being off a fist cross to one of Fred Prestons saluki's. If you ask Kipper, Wilber, Packer or any of the Manchester lads what is the best dog they've seen run its Scout, lo