i understand what your saying and have said often that hancock's policies are not ideal, but we don't live in an ideal world. when i phoned him he asked me lots of questions almost a type of vetting at the time i could have a choice of a number of litters with differing breeding, from smooth coated 1st x's to rough coated 3/4 bred, i could get them black, white, merle, brindle etc. to be honest i took on board a lot of the advice he gave and i'm glad i did now cos jazz suits me and i kinda suit her. rakes half collie i think is a step further being lurcher to lurcher, we can trace a family tre