i fully agree about people not geting the dogs 100% fit ,most would not know how to any way ,this is some thing we are going to find out in the next year or 2 ,a bull bitch we run is realy good she is worked loose and has a brain,she saves her energy ,but because her owner is not out as mutch as he would like to be ,[because he[ WORKS] i hate that word ] ,she has never been 100% fit ,but most i have seen dont last very long when out ,at the moment we are trying a bullx pup,we are brining it up the way we have done with our dogs ,ie,taking it out as soon as it can walk ,this builds up the lu