Cheers Hagar / fireman I also thought that they'd all be gone by now too The funny thing is that the ones that have gone are because one guy was after the blue boy for weeks, and the other because he was the smallest pup IMO the pup's that are here are going to be just the cross i was looking for, tall with a nice bit of bone but not too much. Might have to start aquiring some bits so i can build some kennels in my garden soon