well lads its great you had a cracking night,tomo you mentioned that don had some drive, not like normal collie crosses fannying about,the old boy that bred them ,i was told went through a few collies before he settled for dons dam, i think he knew what he was looking for in the bitch, and it definetely came out,iam told by reliable sourses that dons sister is a cracker, a bit more racer but with the drive of a train, a mate of mine hAS A PICTURE OF ONE OF THE SISTERS, i will try get hold of it and post it , it just proves if the right men get together the breeding will come through, anyway th