I knew you had 1 mate, my pals died after a accident out in the field so I didn't line my english bred grey bitch, although he offered me a use of his bull/grey. I'm not sure if he brought his over with him from ireland and when he first told me he had that cross I couldn't wait to see it on. From what I seen it was a decent dog that knew the game, so I told him I'd get a bitch to get a pup out of it but it's all part of the game. Been offered a free stud off a big money track dog if I want for my irish bred bitch but hoping to use my mates dog from norfolk on her for a decent baseline of lurc