casso I never let him near anyone at all,I never thought of it that way either,makes sense,but after hes started with shake rattle and roll destressing,whats the chances his excitement/temper might over run his logical thinking(can dogs think logically)and he turn on the nearest person to him,or would it have the opposite effect and relax him.As I said its my daughter that has full run of him,I just feed him and drive him and her out for a swim runabout etc.I was thinking of bringing him to a dog trainer to see what he reckons,a schutzhund class possibly.All Im after is a big scary mutt to kee