Mr_Logic
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I wholeheartedly disagree with sportingshooter on this one. I have held an FAC since age 15 quite happily. I used to go out shooting rabbits on my own with the rimfire and no issues, it's not difficult, just complicated. I had experience of firearms from the CCF, and also a rifle club, and that experience is what means you won't need a mentor necessarily, also the shotgun bit will help. Have a long chat with an FEO about mentoring, it's utter bollocks for rimfire and foxing (i.e. centrefires not meant for deer) - if you've been sensible with shotgun and air rifle and shoot at a club, y
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So, you think the BBC's firearms coverage is bad do you?
Mr_Logic replied to a topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
GRRRR! But good to hear on that film that in Ireland the gun lobby actually achieves things - it sure doesn't over here!! -
Nah, Bushnell Elite 3200 7-21x40 for the HMR Just need the cash to afford it, so not for a while. tbh my little Hawke will do for now, unless it starts losing zero.
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Quite scarily, this is the shorter grass - the other part of this field is much much longer...
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Went out yesterday to zero the new HMR, friend came with me and had his first rabbit with it. We carried on wandering round the field, a really flat one with long grass as it's a hay crop. Came across a fox, young one and not quite fully grown I don't think. He saw us as we saw him and scarpered PDQ. I said to my mate that I thought the fox would be long gone. We had seen him at a corner of the field and carried on round, but then saw him again 50 or 60 yards away. I was slow and careful and set up the 223. Shortly after, the 18p Wolf 223 55gr HP did its job wonderfully, the headshot i
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Thanks for all the info guys, I went with a Sako Quad synthetic, and am chuffed with it as a rifle. Was in a hurry so didn't work on the price, £475 which is £50 more than the Sportsman but it would have cost me £50 in fuel so what the heck?! I have put my Hornet moderator (DM80) on there and it's very quiet, and with that and the bipod the balance and weight are pretty good. Just need a decent scope now but that will have to wait a while.
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I think if you want one to do everything, 223 is it. For me, I have shoots where noise is a problem so I opted for HMR. 223 ammo can be had for cheaper than HMR though, my crappy Wolf 223 works wonders assuming it hits (accuracy isn't the best but it is good enough) and costs 18p a bang. I got slightly fleeced on the latest HMR batch at 26p a bang. Still much better than Hornet at 60p though.
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The thing is, I've had a go on one of the .22 Anschutz carbines, I didn't rate the trigger as good as my Sako 22-250, hence the desire for a Quad - get that on a rimfire...
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Right then, variation to be sorted tomorrow, so which HMR would you guys recommend? Quick butcher's on guntrader reveals: Sako Quad, either synthetic (wallet prefers this) or varmint/wood (heart prefers this) Moving on, Ruger 77/17 Marlin 917 CZ Recommendations, and why? BTW I don't like the Anschutz because while they are nice rifles IMHO they aren't worth the money - if I spent that kind of money it will be a Sako Quad Varmint. Cheers muchly all
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Hi all, just wondering how quiet it is possible to make a 223, with the right moderator? I have a Predator8 on the front of mine right now, and while it's quiet enough that I don't need muffs on, it's not very quiet in the grand scheme of things. One of my permissions consists of two people's lawns, one of whom is in the lucky position of having a 150-yard lawn. Of course, there's limited cover so it's too far for a 22LR really. I have used my Hornet and 223 there. 223 works well but it's too loud, Hornet's rubbish and I am selling it (head shot on bunny = paralysed bunny, very much al
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The other downside is that 223 is considerably noisier than 17HMR which can annoy people, but I do agree that apart from the 'other people' factor, 223 is the better bet.
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CZs are good guns, in all their variants. I have the Style, it's weather resistant, light, and accurate. Stock looks cheap but feels nice to use, it's a great rabbit gun.
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I think it's more to do with the speed at which you shoot them - one fox in a night is a good evening's shooting, a single rabbit is a bit light, but still worth popping out. But you might have 200 rabbits to shoot, so they'll last a bit longer than a family of foxes. So the 'sporting shooting' argument means you leave the foxes so you have something to shoot at. The pest control argument says shoot them all, irrespective, that's why you're there. I subscribe to that point of view
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Jack, in your experience moderators make a rifle front heavy but while this can happen it is not always the case. I have an ASE on my 243, an RWS Titan6, and it massively improves the balance. Without it, too much weight in the butt and the rifle is twitchy, with it on the front, balance is perfect and the rifle is a joy to shoot.
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Very simple!! Rabbits breed f***ing fast, foxes don't.
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I use a spirit level on the scope turrets. Get the rifle levelled off before putting the mounts on, then add mounts and scope making sure rifle doesn't move. Before mounting scope make a mental note of precisely where the bubble of the level is, and then make sure it's in the same place when using the top scope turret. Seems to be working, in that shot placement falls vertically down the crosshair.
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Suggest you inform your firearms department about the reality of 243 - it was originally conceived solely as a varmint round, people later worked out that actually it has enough poke for deer too. It's also the best varmint round, since it flies as flat or flatter than 22-250, hits harder and is less wind-affected. I would politely inform them that there are avenues available (BASC and as mentioned HUman Rights act) to ensure that they grant it. In short, 243 all the way, definitely worth an argument with an FEO. if they cite the firearms dept and say No, ask for the manager's name th
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Good going, that ground does look nice.
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Can't argue, I am a big fan of the 10/22, you just have to get the right one. Everyone I find, bar one person, says mini mag are the way to go if you don't use subs. CCI blazer is the guy who doesn't like minimag.
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Well, mine is a 10-shot
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OK, still seems really really odd though! Cheers muchly
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Right then... I was out rabbiting tonight, using the 223 because I got it thoroughly sorted the other day and wanted to see how it performed, even if the ranges ended up being very short (90+ yards longest shot of the evening). I had a shot at about 35 yards, standing, on this rabbit. I pulled the shot slightly, started out as a head shot. This was the result: The rabbit was clearly dead - it had a gaping hole, its eyes were glazed over, it didn't react to anything. Yet, and you can see the mess in the picture, somehow the heart was still beating. How does that work?! Anyone
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I dropped a roe the other week with the 58gr, and it made a hell of mess of the chest area... I wonder if we are just seeing the same thing from different viewpoints?
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They're 10 shot, unless you have 22 Magnum, then they're 9 shot. Made me think it's the magnum.
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Something either mildot, or that gives you aiming marks to allow for the drop, it's useful on a 22LR