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Mr_Logic

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  1. Fidgety - I disagree. If a shot is properly safe with an air gun, most of the time it will be safe with a .22 as well. This holds true for rough shooting in fields and so on, buildings etc where concrete exists are different. But then, an air gun might be the better tool there anyway. Out in the field, the pellet/bullet should always be embedding itself into the ground, in which case no worries. And obviously NO TREE SHOOTING! There ARE differences, but I didn't find the step up a big deal at all - I just got on with it. Not sure the police would see it as so minor now though, my step
  2. Although your ticket says just the foxes, I spoke to my firearms dept and asked for vermin too, they said not to worry - "we don't bother with everything - for example you can shoot foxes with your .22 but we don't put it on there" I don't worry too much about that - so long as the rest of it's legal I don't see the harm. Deer and birds are the only creatures you need to worry about because they have rules and regs - rabbits and vermin are pretty much shoot on sight in the eyes of the law so it's not a massive issue.
  3. One that goes bang Tends to be Magtech because they're cheap as chips, accurate and the hollow point really works, unlike Eley which I find doesn't really expand (although you gotta love the accuracy)
  4. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I read your post as somewhat preachy though - my opinion would be more "I don't shoot beyond yards because I don't feel comfortable". That's 100% fine - everyone should use their tools out to a distance they are comfortable with, it's safer and better that way.
  5. Alimac, sorry but you're talking crap and I have to say it... I can regularly and repeatably head shoot a rabbit at 100 yards, there is no problem with it at all. YES, my HMR does a better job at that range, that's why I bought it. BUT .22 can take rabbits (and foxes) easily at that range, and it's completely humane as there is still plenty of grunt. You just have to be able to shoot, and know your drop at that range.
  6. Hmmm, thanks for that, but the reticle looks too cluttered for me, tbh. The Falcon does half-mil if you get the right ret, mil-dot is likely enough. Still can't decide...
  7. I shot a golf ball at 140 yards , after half a box trying. I had a couple of rabbits a few weeks back, rangefinder said 110 yards. Deker has had one at 196 with a .22, which is impressive IMHO.
  8. Well, you can shoot a fox with pretty much whatever you like... Even if it's not down for foxes, a .22 is perfectly legal if you come across one that needs to be shot. They are classified as vermin, the differentiation is to stop people asking for .22 for foxing, and try to make people get a centrefire - it's the 'good reason' not what's actually legal to do the job.
  9. Good going!! Glad you got the bugger, and a nice shot too, esp with a rifle that's not setup for you.
  10. I also use it lots (I have 700 of them!) and it's done the job.
  11. Yep! In terms of the disadvantages of cheaper ammo, it can be harsher on a barrel as some of it is copper-coated steel for the jacket, rather than simply copper. It's also a lot dirtier than the expensive stuff. It's still non-corrosive - says so in big letters on the packet. And in terms of accuracy, my Howa shoots <.5" with American Eagle (itself only 55-60p a bang) and 1.5" with Wolf. But 1.5" at 100 yards is good enough for foxes a fair way out and a bunny to 200, which is fine for what it needs to do. To go to 300 yards, you would probably want the better stuff on rabbits, but
  12. Tbh, I had to as well. So in that situation I say 223, it still has uses when a 243 is around, unlike 22-250 which doesn't. It's bloody mad though - 243 is no different to shoot than 22-250, in safety terms. Gets me very, very annoyed!
  13. i dont know what you class as top end scopes,but i just got a leupold from the states no problem and no duty either as they put it down as $30 value when it was $640 Which retailer was that one?
  14. They can be adjusted - have a hunt for the guide. Also they have a set trigger, that can be used when zeroing at least to improve things. I'd make sure it's not fouled - my Hornet is a filthy rifle...
  15. 223 with a 40grain bullet will hold its own with 22-250 except for power, and against a rabbit or a fox, both have plenty. But, 223 allows you to shoot the cheap ammo, which does a good enough job. 55gr wolf HP, vs fox at 200, no problem, and 18p a bang. So... what is the point of 22-250? If you need the grunt, get a 243 and feed it 58gr ballistic tip. Flies as flat and hits considerably harder.
  16. The keyword is vermin. Do you want to spend a quid a bang on a bunny rabbit? If you don't forget everything other than 223 if you don't reload. If you do, 223 is still cheaper - stick a 40gr vmax tip on the end, will do 300 yards easy-peasy and stop fox/vermin very happily when it gets there. It may not be the flashiest calibre around, but the ammo is readily available and it will be with us for a long time. 22-250 is good, but 243 costs the same and hits harder. 204 is new, and meant to be pretty good, but it's very expensive and the ammo is rare. So 223 then
  17. Remind me where you live again ML? I need to use up some shotgun ammo and I've wayyyy too many road atlas books Feel free to put large holes in the Reading area of the map
  18. I'm after a scope for my 223 target rifle for use at varying ranges - i.e. I need to be able to adjust the zero reliably and easily. Also want a mil-dot reticle or another similar type. Thus far I'm thinking along the lines of a Bushnell 3200 10x40 or a Falcon 10x42. Apart from these any I should consider at their price point (£200 or thereabouts)? Don't want MTC, too much grief with the Viper I bought.
  19. Forums are fine, but you only EVER learn in the real world.
  20. Snap, agree - 243 is a damn good fox round. Better than 22-250 IMHO, bullet choice is greater and there's more energy to play with too. 223 is a very good option, it's cheaper and it does the job. If deer are involved there is a good case for both, depending on the land.
  21. I prefer wood, but as has been mentioned it's mostly too fragile for life in the outdoors, certainly it's a pain when it gets rained on. Synthetic is good, but it is sometimes a pain for balance because they seem to make the stocks hollow, so the weight is in the muzzle and that's a pain, especially with a moderator.
  22. I've been shooting airguns for over 47 years now and I'm still not bored with them, I also shoot powder burning rifles and shotguns too!. If, and it's a BIG if, when you move on to a rimfire, do you think you will be bored with that after a couple of weeks?? what will you be after then, a Chieften Tank maybe. I may be wrong but I've a strong feeling you were asking the same sort of questions about shotguns just a short time ago. Yep, certainly sounds that way to me...
  23. yes, definitely join a club and learn. Need to know about rifles first, all very well us saying about power and calibres, but get out there and have a look at stuff. Now, rimfires and foxes... Hmm... Are rimfires a frontline fox tool? HMR, borderline. WMR, yes, LR, not unless the situation calls for it. HMR at 100 yards, headshot, not going to be a problem with Charlie. I wouldn't shoot anywhere other than the head personally, unless I was using the hollowpoint ammo, since this penetrates much deeper. But I can hit a bunny in the face at 150 yards, so I can hit a fox in the skull a
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