A couple of the north east lads who are getting the t67s on the bulk buy I am doing straight from china are getting them in the white led with the intensions of using them for lamping with dogs, but I would not know what they are like as I have not seen one in action , put reviews for t67 or t38 flashlight in search engine and see what comes up, I know there are people who say the t20 is a brilliant lamp, well the t38 is excactly the same spec and performance as the t20 because it is the up to date version of the t20, where as the t67, has a bigger lense and more battery power, thus performing