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If she is not in pain, and is not incontinent and she is not costing you a fortune in vets bills, I'd put it off. She's made it through the winter. Spring is in the air. Nothing wrong with having a doddering dog that doesn't want to run with young ones. Leave her have her moment in bed, if she wants.
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I know of a chap that has a Doberman Greyhound first cross, he got it off someone who was into competitive agility stuff. The breeder wanted Doberman brain and the greyhound speed. The dog is surprisingly friendly and looks like a silky coated black greyhound. It doesn't however have the fat flat out speed of the other local lurchers but I am not sure why as it looks like it should do. It also has absolutely no prey drive whatsoever. Basically its a great pet. This shouldn't put you off though I am sure in the right hands with the right parents a dog like this would be fabulous.
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I completely agree - If you want a fast dog follow science. But I wouldn't worry about feeding an exact diet if you have a normal running dog and aren't bothered about track times. What is important is running dogs, in particular large greyhounds, need carbohydrates to perform as part of a balanced diet. For the record is doesn't have to be brown bread - any bread will do.
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That's just the same as saying that dogs need to be trained properly - then mentally and physically exercised in a way makes since to that breed. The only difference between dogs is what happens when it isn't trained or exercised. If Bichon Frise it will yap a lot as chew a mat, if its a terrier it fight with other dogs.
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Wheatons, like pit bulls, mastiff or any other of the scary breeds are just dogs. And just need handling by someone who knows a bit about their breed and is willing to put in the work to train them as best they can to be first and foremost a great dog and then to work. In that order. There nothing mythical or super canine about them.
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I think we agree the most import thing is that the dog bonds to whatever individual or group that brings it up. If you get that right you will normally have a great dog. You have obviously done a great job, but it is fairly unusual for a dog not to meet another dog until its 10 months. At that point I assume your dog would be bigger and more powerful than most other dogs, again this is unusual. Did you do this on purpose - that is keep your dog away from others or did it just happen? I don't know anything really about the specific about those breads apart from they are very big powerful
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I agree that you need to get the focus on you but I have a slightly different view about socialisation. Basically you DON'T have to teach a dog how to be social but you DO have to give it the opportunity to be social in a range of environments, ideally before they are 6 months old. By six months a puppy should be handled and fed by a range of people including young children. It should have played with a range of dogs including older ones. If you don’t do this you are asking for trouble, especially if it has one of the fighting terriers in it. By 9 months the dog should sit for a tr
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Bedlington X Whippet bitch pup wanted.
PJCaswell replied to jam1e's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
I would work out if you want a Collie X or a Bedlington X. DH dogs are collie crosses. Both look similar but behave very differently. Basically I would only get a first x Bedlington if you want a terrier in it. if you don't want a terrier in it get a collie cross. Collie x's think with their sheep dog brains where as Bedlington x's think with their terrier hearts. Lots of dogs that are from dogs sanctuaries that are labelled as Bedlington's only have a whiff in them. Many are great dogs but they don't have that -
Bedlington X Whippet bitch pup wanted.
PJCaswell replied to jam1e's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
I think you are after a Bedlington Greyhound 'first cross'. But even then it wont make 24" more like 20-22". Bedlington Greyhound x are fabulous - personally I can't see the point in any other kind of lurcher to share a home with. They are hard as nails out, and soft as a kitten in the home. Bedlington Greyhound 'first cross' are hard to find. My only advice is to try to find the bitch EARLY- you want to get the pup at 8 weeks because first cross Bedlington need to be socialised EARLY; and make sure you see both parents if you can, but make sure you see and if possible handle the Bedl -
Feed the dog 4 times a day and make sure it has clean water, rather than just having food on tap which you can do with an adult dog. Don't feed it one type of food but try to give it scraps or other brands, cooked and raw meet, tined sardines, oats, wheetabix. It might have evil dumps for a few weeks but its worth having a dog that will eat anything. If you give it raw meet remember E. coli Puppies can thrive on any high calorie dog food. All puppy food is, is higher calorie dog food. Don't forget as it grows running dogs need a prodigious amount of calcium. If it can stom
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I agree, but owners of non-working lurchers CAN create a hunting experience for their dogs which WILL dissipate ENERGY. Owners of working lurchers would call training. Lurchers want and they need to hunt by running at something very fast and getting an additional reward. In adult working dogs that reward is killing something. In dogs that are being trained (adults or puppies) it is another type of reward. Rescued lurchers or rehomed greyhounds are often poorly conditioned and unhappy dogs because their owners don’t know what to do with them. The dogs are either never left of a lead
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'talk to the vet' is a euphuism for putting him down. IMO if a dog is aggressive and can't be controlled should be put down. Even 30 years ago dogs that didn't make the grade were simply put down - now we drop em off at the dogs trust and pass the problem on to some other poor soul.
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For what it is worth here is my advice · If the dog has actually attacked another dog or you are at all worried it will, you need to muzzle it for its own and other dog’s protection. · All dogs have it in them to actually attack other dogs but larger dogs with powerful mouths can be very dangerous. · Hitting an untrained dog to stopping it going nuts at another dog is completely counterproductive. They might stop for that single moment (which might be important if they have attacked another dog) but they won’t have learnt anything apart from to be war
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The recent thread on Dave Platt's Saracen pretty much contains the combined wisdom on greyhound deerhound
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I occasionally meet a beautiful fawn wolfhound. but its a massive lap dog rather that an over grown running dog. It wouldn't last 2 minutes against a Jack Russell let alone a Doberman. Anyone who sets Doberman on a dog like that is just a sick MF.
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Nothing really prepares you for the sight of a freshly laid wolfhound dump. Its one of the most frightening things I have ever seen.
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The rescue centre is talking rubbish - first cross beddie whippets of both sexes have amazing prey drive, and all things equal a male beddie whippet x is probably a better. Its hard to be absolutely sure from the photographs but I think its unlikely to be a first cross Bedlington - wrong coat - but that could just be the photographs.
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these are nimals that are commercially bred like the Hancock collie xs ,but these are a good money turner.and breed very true ta phenotype,what's the price around three fifty would not surprise me wouldn't have one fa a gift maybe ok ta breed a f1 type Lurcher from where's he got them posted at Leicester game fair.atb bill Commercially bred?????? What like a coursing greyhound, working Bedlington or a weatherproof Patterdale. Obviously they are ‘commercially’ bred. That’s the point. It’s really odd that he goes as far as advertising the fact he is selling puppies and people o
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To return to the original post Dave Platt's dogs are consistently 26-28" for, I think, the reason outlined above. Rightly or wrongly this is what I think he is trying to do.
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If dogs have been domesticated for 20,000 years – it is only in the last 20 that we have thought that they need some kind of different diet to us. Dogs evolved in a wide variety of environments through continuous interactions with humans. The one common factor in the domestication process is that the diet of the domesticated dog broadly replicates the diet of the human society in which it was domesticated. When humans ate a lot of seafood dogs ate a lot of seafood, when humans ate a lot of grains dogs ate a lot of grains. When our ancestors on these islands used running dogs to suppleme
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Carbohydrates are a completely natural energy source for both humans and dogs. Its actually unnatural to feed a dog a raw diet unless it is a husky. Carbohydrates have enabled Wolves (marathon runners) to evolve to sprinting dogs. The benefits for both humans and dogs is that carbs give us easy access to an energy source. this is important when a dog (or human) is repeatedly sprinting. If we don't have access to carbs we have to use protein and/or fat but this is less efficient, especially if no carbohydrate is present. The balance of protein to fat is different for different dogs but a high
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I wouldn't worry about the bone in the gut but if you want to get a dog to run as fast as it could then fast you need to feed it carbohydrates. Dogs have evolved from Wolves. During this journey dogs evolved to eat broadly the same food as us. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned feeding their dog stale brown bread and tripe. Add a bit of bone and some fat and bingo
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Everyone who I’ve spoken with who currently has a deerhound x, including those bred by Dave Platt, were honest about the strengths and weaknesses…but they are still clearly being used. Undeniably however there is now a massive contrast between the deerhound x and the big bull/mastiff x. But that’s part of the problem - Big bull/mastiff’s are killing machines and deerhound x are large traditional running dogs. Don’t get me wrong a bull x are great but there is a place for a different kind of dog.
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Am sure Platt wouldn't go near a Wheaton. But that's the point. He is doing his thing - rightly or wrongly, to try to keep the working deerhound lurcher alive using greyhounds and deerhounds. That's his thing, might work, might not. But I wish there were more people out there trying to do something similar with a type of running dog they love.
