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Me and @mC HULLhad this conversation not long ago , you don’t see many of those grey hounds with bull terrier head types anymore

If the main contractors insisted on an apprenticeship per brickie gang then everyone is on the same deal...

Been to both and was asked to judge Flimby and did. I was at the Roman Wall show a few weeks ago and met up with a few of lads from the Flimby Club. There was three lads you probably know who had a pick up full of hairy foxing dogs from Whitehaven, rough looking bunch…..the dogs AND the lads ! LOL ! Cheers.

They were night and day different to many of the excuses of dogs you see today that couldn't catch a cold, more typey, even the monsters had the grace of a thoroughbred. I see very few bull crosses today that I think "I'd love to own that dog."

Apprenticeship system works for companies , obviously not gonna work for a subby on price, but if they want to build the house numbers they are talking about then they'll need to train up youngsters. Apprentices provide cheap labour , and will in time fill some of the skill shortages . Building industry seems far more reliant on foreign labour than engineering and tbh engineering in certain sectors has gone all in on recruiting apprentices.

Im Sure wilf won’t mind me sharing this . he was a big old powerful dog like

I ain't seen a lot a the dogs up your way mate I get messed up joe Ox or big Ron have them red uns I'd love to see them on look capable and right mix with the bull in there you could have some serious dogs

I was at it late 90s with loads a them types mate All needed babying if I'm lamping it's there I'm slipping I don't need to be waiting on a dog to get ready missing a run because the things got 3 runs in it max and I can see it's bar flashing lol we been out since 10 it's 11 now let's get home and if you want a few hour the cars packed with dogs lol

I think the apprentice system is all wrong. My brother is a bricklayer and on price, on what planet would he put in the time and effort to babysit a young stranger when time is money? I imagine it's not the only trade with those sorts of problems.

I'm the same I don't fox now but I keep eye out nice un open land I can't help my self but he's a big strong dominant dog I'll grass 3 and alot more when gunter comes One run his be flaked out needing a drip if it doesn't just stop go back to him like them other Irish dogs did lol I've heard wilf mention his dogs can't remember seeing them

I’ve seen bull x trying to bury foxes into the ground mate . and that was just scrappy mean red flyers from out west Cumbria with no fancy names I don’t know about that , crab fair or flimby show would have dogs for days that could turn their hands to most stuff

Nah, I can imagine, I didn't mean in an educational environment, I certainly couldn't deal with a behaviour unit. I did a career day in the kids primary school and found that difficult public speaking isn't my forte, thankfully the bits and pieces I brought in drew questions for me to answer and I tried to give a brief insight into the trade. I only meant in the form of an apprentice and then they'd have to have a good work ethic or they'd be gone, so isn't most likely ....well done on giving those kids a shot sometimes it can just give them an option they'd never have thought of on their own.

I think you are selling lads short, not so much now, but back in the 90's and early 00's there was plenty of lads with very capable dogs around these parts, only a select few kept the torch lit after the ban mind.

What makes me laugh is the bull x lads ain't much sense or ability in dogs It would take a dogman a few years to breed an out and out killer with all night in the tank that loves teeth and still looked hard on a lead lol haha

You mean you don't agree that they are as easy to catch? I know what you are saying, they don't get the respect a hare does, but then again how many foxes do you get laid up in their seats and need kicking up lol, but yeah, lads don't think about giving a fox fair law. Lol

Yes and no. i was never a foxing man , i would run and kill but more as an opportunity to test the dog and a bit of crack than anything too serious . I like a bit of bull in a running dog for the snap and the brain they have and it just tidies up a dog imho One of the best what I would call spree killers lol was our very own @WILFdog who could get taken out to a place with heavy foxes and be guaranteed to leather them back to back with minimum respite between. I believe he was heavily saluki blooded and was as handsome a dog as you could wish to kennel. conversely a dog that y

Basicslly I don't agree with all of it but I agree with some of it

Still lost mate, forgive me I've not slept much. Lol

I do with the end it gets killed quick lol

Same with big old roes open land Blacky and lgz took up the challenge to see how the mighty bull x copes lol

Eh? Lol

there doesn't seem much support for the glorious 12th.

Bringing on youngsters is a tough gig. I had a job working with lads in a behaviour unit in a school. I busted a gut trying to help them but it was very difficult. They had had horrendous family lives and were already into drugs as a way out. I take my hat off to anybody teaching youngsters. It's a tough profession.

Perfect legs for fleeing.....lol

I don't fully agree mate dowith the end But november on slipped on descent size land single no help 90 percent a lads bull xs won't even get to taste one The quarry ain't getting shown the respect it deserves Think kick up then kick up.dogs doubled