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#61 bird

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 11:48 pm

I didn't watch the video all the way through.

 

Seen his like way too often, a self opinionated,. . . . . bully.. . . . . with a far inflated sense of his own ability and worth.

 

That dog is not trained, and its unlikely to get there in his hands. And I have no idea why he is videoing himself acting in such a manner toward it?

 

Unfortunately the internet provides a forum for these kind of people. Easy for them to spout that shite in an empty field, to a camera.

 

Hopefully those who watch him can see just how much of a fat, fool he is.

 

I cannot stand a bully, be they a bully of other people or of animals.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 09:00 am

I didn't watch the video all the way through.

 

Seen his like way too often, a self opinionated,. . . . . bully.. . . . . with a far inflated sense of his own ability and worth.

 

That dog is not trained, and its unlikely to get there in his hands. And I have no idea why he is videoing himself acting in such a manner toward it?

 

Unfortunately the internet provides a forum for these kind of people. Easy for them to spout that shite in an empty field, to a camera.

 

Hopefully those who watch him can see just how much of a fat, fool he is.

 

I cannot stand a bully, be they a bully of other people or of animals.

I get some of your points but i didnt see a bully i seen a forceful harsh physical correction but not a bully if he was standing over the dog verbally shouting and screaming at it and physically knocking the dog when the dog was cowering and you could see the dog was distressed yes i would see a bully but i didnt see that imo the only thing i seen that was not for me was the picking up by the ears he could of lifted it a better way if he had done that would there of been this thread ????



#63 Lab

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 09:02 am


I didn't watch the video all the way through.
 
Seen his like way too often, a self opinionated,. . . . . bully.. . . . . with a far inflated sense of his own ability and worth.
 
That dog is not trained, and its unlikely to get there in his hands. And I have no idea why he is videoing himself acting in such a manner toward it?
 
Unfortunately the internet provides a forum for these kind of people. Easy for them to spout that shite in an empty field, to a camera.
 
Hopefully those who watch him can see just how much of a fat, fool he is.
 
I cannot stand a bully, be they a bully of other people or of animals.

I get some of your points but i didnt see a bully i seen a forceful harsh physical correction but not a bully if he was standing over the dog verbally shouting and screaming at it and physically knocking the dog when the dog was cowering and you could see the dog was distressed yes i would see a bully but i didnt see that imo the only thing i seen that was not for me was the picking up by the ears he could of lifted it a better way if he had done that would there of been this thread ????

Yip there would still have been this thread. Why? Because this is THL and everyone likes to comment, whether it's constructive or not.
Oh and because the guys fat and more likely a shooter then he would obviously know nothing....lol

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 09:11 am

 

 

I didn't watch the video all the way through.
 
Seen his like way too often, a self opinionated,. . . . . bully.. . . . . with a far inflated sense of his own ability and worth.
 
That dog is not trained, and its unlikely to get there in his hands. And I have no idea why he is videoing himself acting in such a manner toward it?
 
Unfortunately the internet provides a forum for these kind of people. Easy for them to spout that shite in an empty field, to a camera.
 
Hopefully those who watch him can see just how much of a fat, fool he is.
 
I cannot stand a bully, be they a bully of other people or of animals.

I get some of your points but i didnt see a bully i seen a forceful harsh physical correction but not a bully if he was standing over the dog verbally shouting and screaming at it and physically knocking the dog when the dog was cowering and you could see the dog was distressed yes i would see a bully but i didnt see that imo the only thing i seen that was not for me was the picking up by the ears he could of lifted it a better way if he had done that would there of been this thread ????

Yip there would still have been this thread. Why? Because this is THL and everyone likes to comment, whether it's constructive or not.
Oh and because the guys fat and more likely a shooter then he would obviously know nothing....lol

 

:laugh: well i guess there is that 



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 10:10 am

The video is a demonstration of ignorance and bullying. If a "trainer" needs to do stuff like that, then he needs training himself.



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 10:26 am

As said I don't condone his method, but I still would say the dog wasn't fazed in the slightest.

There will be a lot of dogs out there ruined by heavy handling.

I wonder how many dogs though have ended up in pounds up and down the country or even worse pts through not being leaned on so to speak.

All dogs are different, a stern word or growl might be adequate in most cases but I personally know of dogs which would have been liabilities if a harder hand hadn't been administered.


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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:08 pm

 

 

I didn't watch the video all the way through.
 
Seen his like way too often, a self opinionated,. . . . . bully.. . . . . with a far inflated sense of his own ability and worth.
 
That dog is not trained, and its unlikely to get there in his hands. And I have no idea why he is videoing himself acting in such a manner toward it?
 
Unfortunately the internet provides a forum for these kind of people. Easy for them to spout that shite in an empty field, to a camera.
 
Hopefully those who watch him can see just how much of a fat, fool he is.
 
I cannot stand a bully, be they a bully of other people or of animals.

I get some of your points but i didnt see a bully i seen a forceful harsh physical correction but not a bully if he was standing over the dog verbally shouting and screaming at it and physically knocking the dog when the dog was cowering and you could see the dog was distressed yes i would see a bully but i didnt see that imo the only thing i seen that was not for me was the picking up by the ears he could of lifted it a better way if he had done that would there of been this thread ????

Yip there would still have been this thread. Why? Because this is THL and everyone likes to comment, whether it's constructive or not.
Oh and because the guys fat and more likely a shooter then he would obviously know nothing....lol

 

 

Now lab. . . . . you know i'm not like that.

 

And no, I see nowt wrong with scruffing a dog and putting it in its place. Seen my old man do it with plenty of spaniels.

 

But there is a lot more to that blokes mannerisms that says bully and idiot to me. . . . than the ear picking up. . . . . . although thats the cherry.



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:25 pm


 

 

I didn't watch the video all the way through.
 
Seen his like way too often, a self opinionated,. . . . . bully.. . . . . with a far inflated sense of his own ability and worth.
 
That dog is not trained, and its unlikely to get there in his hands. And I have no idea why he is videoing himself acting in such a manner toward it?
 
Unfortunately the internet provides a forum for these kind of people. Easy for them to spout that shite in an empty field, to a camera.
 
Hopefully those who watch him can see just how much of a fat, fool he is.
 
I cannot stand a bully, be they a bully of other people or of animals.

I get some of your points but i didnt see a bully i seen a forceful harsh physical correction but not a bully if he was standing over the dog verbally shouting and screaming at it and physically knocking the dog when the dog was cowering and you could see the dog was distressed yes i would see a bully but i didnt see that imo the only thing i seen that was not for me was the picking up by the ears he could of lifted it a better way if he had done that would there of been this thread ????
Yip there would still have been this thread. Why? Because this is THL and everyone likes to comment, whether it's constructive or not.
Oh and because the guys fat and more likely a shooter then he would obviously know nothing....lol
 
 
Now lab. . . . . you know i'm not like that.
 
And no, I see nowt wrong with scruffing a dog and putting it in its place. Seen my old man do it with plenty of spaniels.
 
But there is a lot more to that blokes mannerisms that says bully and idiot to me. . . . than the ear picking up. . . . . . although thats the cherry.

Not aimed at you or anyone in particular mate. Just saying how this place is.

Apart from his annoying twang..( hehehe) I really can't see what the problem is. He hasn't battered the dog and he talks about what he is doing and why he is doing it.
Tbh any of these home made videos are pretty cringeworthy at best.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:03 pm

For my part, I don't think lifting a dog up by it's ears, or scruff is a good Idea. Damage to the tissue, and nerves may result. But when teaching place/down. It's common to pick the dog up give a correction of some sort (I use ass over tea kettle) then placing them back where they belong. Later a simple bump with the e-collar is used. Then they have it and you move on. It's important to remember that a solid down can save a dogs life when someone is shooting at a low flying bird.

 

I liked that little dog.



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 08:53 pm

Later a simple bump with the e-collar is used.

The lazy way out

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 09:05 pm

Talk about blowing things out of proportion ?. But that's the Facebook generation i suppose.

Edited by jessdale, 28 May 2014 - 09:20 pm.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 10:06 pm

Later a simple bump with the e-collar is used.

The lazy way out
. And ruined many
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 12:03 am

 

Later a simple bump with the e-collar is used.

The lazy way out

 

Yeah I'm lazy. :huh:



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 06:47 am

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 07:53 am

I wonder if a Alfa dog in a pack worries wether he rags a upstart taking the piss, by the neck ear shoulder etc.??
The dog showed no fear of his hands & was showing keenness to please. All dogs are different, some you just raise your voice too & they go in a sulk, others are the complete opposite & need treated differently..
Iv never known a dog that's been trained along similar lines to have any extra issues with ears compared to a dog that has been trained differently. Gundogs / trialingdogs the length & breadth of the country are trained along them lines, & I'd like to see some of the posters on here, go to a trail & point out which dogs have been trained this way & which haven't, by looking for signs of ear irritation, deafness or fear of there handler.
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