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#31 A1WOC

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:16 pm

Steve I've been using them for the past year, you have made the right choice! Tony and the team are awesome! You WILL be impressed with the results my friend!

 

Thanks for the reassurance; SFS’s renowned service is echoed on here by many experience marksmen like you, Si & Davy, to name a few.

 

Regards, Steve.



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:35 pm

A great write up Phil, such a pity that your experience of the top AA springer was ruined by quality issues that should never have happened. I just had to log in to tell you that you may have had issues, there may be quality control issues or a bad batch has slipped through, whatever it is has done AA no favours because we are all so quick to pick up on a problem.

The PS cocking system is under a high strain because of the geometry but there is no real excuse for it to fail.

The problem you had with yours is diabolical I agree, by comparison my PS has now passed 70,000 shots with little wear and no replacement parts on the cocking mechanism. I did have an issue with a pin working out, again a rarity but easily fixed, no more of a problem than little issues that crop up on many makes of airguns.

I hope AA take this seriously and look closely at what went wrong, I hope they also do something about the cowboy outfit they used as couriers.

The much vaunted HW range of airguns rightly have a place in the top echelon of manufacturers but remember it wasn't too long ago that there were so many horror stories about chopped springs, HW100s running hot and probably a few more. Again, most of the comparisons are between a standard PS and an HW that has been tuned at SFS, bearing in mind that even the chap who does the tuning, Tony is it? has said that he can't improve the action of the Prosport.

I'm glad you liked the gun, the accuracy, the balance and the looks, It's sad that you were let down by shoddy workmanship/quality control but unfortunately that can happen with any manufacturer.

Hopefully at some point you'll give the PS another chance, try mine when you come down here on the pigeons and I'll try your HW, not to prove which is best but to show that a bad PS is a rarity, not the norm.

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#33 Mawders

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:03 pm

Hey Tim can't wait to come down mate, looking forward to that and I reckon your right, AA need to take a look at what's going wrong! I reckon its the new ones, your testimony of 70,000 shots proves they used to be bloody good rifles. Can't wait to try yours out but for now I'm happier than a fat kid with cake! The HW really is impressing me especially after the work tony has put into it! Awesome rifle! Tony and the team work wonders on their rifles.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:53 pm

Worth waiting for for sure, superb account of not only the rifle but some excellent displays of customer service and pretty bad luck. For me, having an engineering background, I would have held onto it and wanted desperately to understand what was the reason that two rifles would display the same characteristics regardless of what AA were prepared to admit or not. But then again I have a selection to choose from and no-one should have to do the qc for AA on a £500 rifle. I just can't get over two rifles with the same issue and not having heard anything like it until now. Will await to see if any other poor accounts around the lever.

 

Once again, superb account fellow.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:46 pm

Great feedback! I may have missed it, but what feedback have you had from Airarms? You also mentioned other shooters feedback of the same problem, any idea how common it is?

Apologies for some random questions!

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:32 pm

Hey trench, cheers. I don't think its a wide problem at all maybe just a bad batch but time will tell. I have not emailed AA yet. It's on my to do list which is growing. When I first rang them they didn't seem surprised so maybe others have returned them for fixing, who knows?

What I can say is their customer service is second to none!

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:30 am

Cracking  post there, Mawders, and something that I find interesting.

 

The main suppliers of spring rifles that are deemed as the flagships of the art are AA and HW. Folks debate about why one's better than the other because of blah, blah, blah, but the simple fact is that both makes are crap compared to what they used to be. Quality control's gone down the pan.

 

Give me a decent  80s or 90s used HW or a ten year old AA over their new stuff any day.

 

Also fair play to SFS for giving what sounds like genuine and honest customer care.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:16 am

Cracking  post there, Mawders, and something that I find interesting.

 

The main suppliers of spring rifles that are deemed as the flagships of the art are AA and HW. Folks debate about why one's better than the other because of blah, blah, blah, but the simple fact is that both makes are crap compared to what they used to be. Quality control's gone down the pan.

 

Give me a decent  80s or 90s used HW or a ten year old AA over their new stuff any day.

 

Also fair play to SFS for giving what sounds like genuine and honest customer care.

you have just confirmed what i was thinking my pro is an older one and i intend to get an older hopefully mint 77.  



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:24 am

Great to read mawders, and that's coming from someone who has never read a book haha, and you have also given SFS the praise it deserves, like you i would sooner drive 60 miles past 3 local gun shops to go to SFS.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:17 am

Cheers andy and Ben. It was hard work writing all that I can tell you ha ha, couple of hours for two nights to get it all down then edit the pictures in. I enjoy writing about things I'm passionate about. I can't use big words as its not in my vocabulary, what you see is what you get, I don't mince my words and prefer to be truthful. My writing skill is very basic to say the least lol. Still I'm planning to start reviewing airgun items giving a non biased straight to the point review. If it pays off or not with regards to people being interested who knows lol. It will be as and when I buy kit to shoot with, not looking to get freebies or fame just to help other honest air gunners out recommending kit or not recommending kit as the case may be.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:00 am

Interesting post this. When I got my pro sport it was great for a week then the bolt holding the under lever sheared and broke. My rfd sorted it immediately and its been fine since, although it could use a service now (i dread to think how many pellets have gone through it though!)
incidentally, my 80 was twenty ish years old when I got it, and hasn't missed a beat so far...
Great review by the way!

Cheers, wurz

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:42 am

Thanks wurz, I think if I ever get one again ill try and get a second hand one. Seems they were better built.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:08 am

Fantastic review of both rifles Mawders, Sorry to hear about the pro sport not working out but take comfort in the hw mate, im awaiting mine from tony as i type mate should be here monday fingers crossed, had a few hours with my brothers S2 tuned new hw97kt in 177 nickel synthetic and was more than impressed with how it shot and the accuracy and gentle recoil, smooth as u like, this is all from a new unbedded in rifle so will only improve, with the limited springer experience of myself and my brother we were shooting drawing pins from 15 to 35yards quite consistently so if mine is as good i will be over the moon. Look forward to the full review on the s2 hw.ATB Aaron



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:23 pm

Cheers Aaron buddy that's impressive shooting hitting drawing pins out to 35 yards with the 97 mate! I'm waiting for a calm day to get down the farm and try mine out on small objects like that! I hope with practice mate I'll be able to do that one day.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:24 pm

Cheers Aaron buddy that's impressive shooting hitting drawing pins out to 35 yards with the 97 mate! I'm waiting for a calm day to get down the farm and try mine out on small objects like that! I hope with practice mate I'll be able to do that one day.

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Cheers Mawders dont get me wrong im no crack shot these were taken indoors in perfect conditions prone and rested so no other influence other than us. And anyhow mate from what i have heard you shoot just fine mate :thumbs:  am waiting for the weather to improve and will get some footage up ATB Aaron




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