FenMaster 2 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 LOL I reckon any dog that is bred the right way will turn out to be a good all round lurcher. Although, I wouldn't give a Saluki cross a bed for the night..... every one to theyre own i suppose but i think its down to how m,uch youve done over the test of time i wouldnt own a dog if it didnt have saluki blood in it the only people who knock em are the people whove never experienced them or do not have the capabilitys to get the best out of them as for collie crosses i wouldnt chuck bread to one least of all yhe rubbish that bloke over lichfield spews out like battery hens every one of them if tested are a potential puller or a yapper Quote Link to post
Guest shaneo Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 fen master totaly agree mate most of these people who put down suluki crosses have never owned one or capable of handling and getting the best out of them Quote Link to post
SMART DOG 340 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 well rab take it you a bit of a novice when it comes to the working lurcher as i like to see a dog put to the test weather it behind old long ears on nice flat land or rocky fell land taking 20/30 rabbits in a few hard hours work. a lurcher should be able to hunt on any ground even rock climbing as you have dumbly stated if your dog couldnt cope on such land i couldn't call it a lurcher so you stick to your nice little grassy fields and let the proper dogs do the hard work so your saying if a lurcher can not work on rocky land it not a lurcher? well what is it then? jeppi a lurcher should be versatile enough to run on any ground a dog which cant is just second best to me i like to no that my dogs are confident working 100% i couldnt have a dog which is gonna smash itself bits cost me money at the vets and waste time laid up buts like i say thats just my opinion Quote Link to post
JPTfellterrier 65 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 couple of my mates told me that collie crosses will get too clever when they get older and will stop running stuff thats too far away or in a edge can anyone tell me what they think im not speaking from experience of the breed but my colliexgrey (my first lurcher) who is coming up two is clever, very clever but not too clever for her own good......very good at out smarting her prey and predicting what its next move is going to be and i would defonatly have anouther........but is what your mates said really a bad point? do you really want your dog to run and run with no hope in hell or catching somthing? i think its a case of the dog getting older and wiser and thinking, well i can either tire myself out or save my energy for anouther run....but there is a diffrence between a dog half arsing it (e.g. been run on too many things that it had no hope of catching and pulling up) and relising when its got no hope in hell of catching up hope this helps....i love my colliexgrey wouldnt change her for the world Quote Link to post
JPTfellterrier 65 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Here we go again with the mighty fen dogs....catch everything blah blah blah! take them out their wee bubble differennt story....anyways back to the original point....pulling up at fences/hedges or not trying for bunnies to close to the fence is not exclusive to collie x's....from my experience I would say that the biggest cause of this is the dog being given near impossible run's were the rabbit is far to close to the fenceline and is under it before the dog can get to grips with it. Do this with any dog and eventually it will become disheartend. And as folk have already pointed out do you really want a dog that will crash through hedges in the dark without thinking?....they sort of dogs eventually come to grief....I dont like my dogs jumping fences in the dark chasing bunnies and switch the lamp of as soon as the bunny goes under and the dog is straight back ready for the next one. Remember you can always catch another rabbit, but not if your dog is out of action. I think these dogs have more sense than some of their owners couldnt agree more Quote Link to post
Guest sitepatrol Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Here we go again with the mighty fen dogs....catch everything blah blah blah! take them out their wee bubble differennt story....anyways back to the original point....pulling up at fences/hedges or not trying for bunnies to close to the fence is not exclusive to collie x's....from my experience I would say that the biggest cause of this is the dog being given near impossible run's were the rabbit is far to close to the fenceline and is under it before the dog can get to grips with it. Do this with any dog and eventually it will become disheartend. And as folk have already pointed out do you really want a dog that will crash through hedges in the dark without thinking?....they sort of dogs eventually come to grief....I dont like my dogs jumping fences in the dark chasing bunnies and switch the lamp of as soon as the bunny goes under and the dog is straight back ready for the next one. Remember you can always catch another rabbit, but not if your dog is out of action. I think these dogs have more sense than some of their owners Good for you undisputed.I would never risk a good dog running about in the dark for the sake off a rabbit.you can always get the next rabbit but try replaceing a good dog.ATB.sitepatrol Quote Link to post
FenMaster 2 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 it dont run around in the dark you take a lamp and battery with you :clapper: if it pulls its a jacker end of its not trying Quote Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 I have seen dogs that pick and choose ther runs go out and catch large bags. it can be frustrating if a dog does it from time to time but i dont think you can say a dog is no good or jacker. Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 it dont run around in the dark you take a lamp and battery with you :clapper: if it pulls its a jacker end of its not trying And you cant keep the lamp on it if it goes through the hedge or fence..... Quote Link to post
Guest sitepatrol Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 it dont run around in the dark you take a lamp and battery with you :clapper: if it pulls its a jacker end of its not trying And you cant keep the lamp on it if it goes through the hedge or fence..... As soon as the lamp is off the dog should come back to the owner.sitepatrol Quote Link to post
comanche 3,283 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 couple of my mates told me that collie crosses will get too clever when they get older and will stop running stuff thats too far away or in a edge can anyone tell me what they think Its all true .Collie crosses are rubbish . Don't buy one . If you hear of such a litter(or even better a lurcher to collie cross) being bred this year however I'd love a PM as I'm looking for a bitch that will be totally useless to replace my old collie /lurcher cross who was also totally useless . Quote Link to post
FenMaster 2 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 it dont run around in the dark you take a lamp and battery with you :clapper: if it pulls its a jacker end of its not trying And you cant keep the lamp on it if it goes through the hedge or fence..... you switch it of then and your dog comes nack then if it dosnt come back you sell it on to some dope like you Quote Link to post
bigkiel 7 Posted May 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 all them replyes to my topic are good and i am thankful for all your views any 1 tell me what ther preferd all rounder is Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 my perfect alrounder would be a dog that does not refuse to run. or pick and choose its runs. jmo. atb stabba. Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) From my old records from the dog in my avatar as he got older 5-6 his kill total went down but his catch to run ratio went up for example when he was 3 he run 40 rabbits and caught 12 when he was 5 he would run 30 and and catch 10 ..he did what you said not run those tight in to hedges/fences and those at the end of the beam lkike he did when he was younger.It didn't bother me and he was certainly no jacker your dog sounds shite then.... Thats a terrieble ratio He's not a jacker more a none starter..... Edited May 5, 2009 by Giro Quote Link to post
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