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I have just been trying to find a correlation between your analogy bob,taking a fish or breaking and entering to steal a firearm,its a very tenuous link indeed,so Bob,every broken any laws whatsoever?Dropped litter?Put your foot down on the motorway?I wish I was so pious :angel: Not that I poach or anything,but neither do I preach :)

 

 

I am not trying to be saint like at all, like every other normal human I get done by speed cameras etc. I just want to try and make people understand that poaching harms peoples livelihood's. Many fisheries employ young people in rural areas, often on minimum wage to help feed the fish and get the boats ready in the morning etc. These are not rich toffs, these are people who are trying to make a living doing hard graft. Poaching makes these jobs less sustainable.

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I am not preaching, I am challenging an attitude that you think it is ok to steal peoples fish and trying to make you understand that it affects peoples lives and jobs. Simple as that.

 

You wouldn't break in to a gunshop to steal a rifle because you recognise it's totally unacceptable

 

Just like you recognise it's unacceptable to steal the rifle, I hope you can understand the gamekeeper/fishery managers point of view that it's unacceptable for people to steal the fish/game.

 

Best Regards

Poaching harms peoples livelihoods?You have been flashed by a speed-camera?Friend of mine was killed by a speeding driver,left his two small kids without a father,see the link?Glass house,stones,dont throw,never pays to moralise unless your squeaky clean :blink:

check mate ;)

 

That's terrible. Sorry to hear about your friend. Speeding drivers are dangerous which is why I deserved the fine and the points on my licence. I recognise that speeding is wrong and that it has consequences.

 

Will you recognise that stealing is wrong and has consequences?

 

Best Regards

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how much you charge for your tuition bob , Chess needs a lesson :D only joking chess just noticed your browsing ;) iam going to have to root my old pics out gbob will have heart faliure :D

 

Your right Valley i do :) Got my heart set on a little freestone number in deepest darkest Cheshire :victory:

have you now :D:D:D:clapper: these trout are chess free iam affraid :D they told me today :D good touch thier tho chess lad :clapper::clapper:

 

Aaghh but Grasshopper your permission is my permission and vice versa :blink: Ever caught a blue trout Valley :icon_eek: I will lead you to the promised land, caught half a dozen last week, fight like stink and look like grilse :yes: Now when did you say you wanted to show me around your gaff :hmm:

ive had north american brook trout and golden but never the blue i dont drive so iam sorry cant be tempet with the blue soz chess ill send you some great pics of me and mackem with big brownires nexy summer tho bud will that do :D;)

Grnnn if it wasnt for that pesky Mackem those 15lb trout would be mine i say mine :censored:

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I have just been trying to find a correlation between your analogy bob,taking a fish or breaking and entering to steal a firearm,its a very tenuous link indeed,so Bob,every broken any laws whatsoever?Dropped litter?Put your foot down on the motorway?I wish I was so pious :angel: Not that I poach or anything,but neither do I preach :)

 

 

I am not trying to be saint like at all, like every other normal human I get done by speed cameras etc. I just want to try and make people understand that poaching harms peoples livelihood's. Many fisheries employ young people in rural areas, often on minimum wage to help feed the fish and get the boats ready in the morning etc. These are not rich toffs, these are people who are trying to make a living doing hard graft. Poaching makes these jobs less sustainable.

.

 

I am not preaching, I am challenging an attitude that you think it is ok to steal peoples fish and trying to make you understand that it affects peoples lives and jobs. Simple as that.

 

You wouldn't break in to a gunshop to steal a rifle because you recognise it's totally unacceptable

 

Just like you recognise it's unacceptable to steal the rifle, I hope you can understand the gamekeeper/fishery managers point of view that it's unacceptable for people to steal the fish/game.

 

Best Regards

Poaching harms peoples livelihoods?You have been flashed by a speed-camera?Friend of mine was killed by a speeding driver,left his two small kids without a father,see the link?Glass house,stones,dont throw,never pays to moralise unless your squeaky clean :blink:

check mate ;)

 

That's terrible. Sorry to hear about your friend. Speeding drivers are dangerous which is why I deserved the fine and the points on my licence. I recognise that speeding is wrong and that it has consequences.

 

Will you recognise that stealing is wrong and has consequences?

 

Best Regards

stealing maybe wrong but if you had not been caught speeding would you have handed yourself in to the cops to tell them you were speeding and never speed again ,i think not .So why should a man stop poaching unless he was caught and if he is caught he deals with the consequences just like you did
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Do you still speed bob?2am,no one around,why not put your foot down,get home a little earlier on the empty roads,have you learn your lesson bob? :angel:

 

Hello,

 

No, I am as careful as I possibly can be when I drive because I understand that speeding is dangerous and wrong. Yep I got done for doing thirty five in a thirty and it's a fair cop. I deserved the points and the fine.

 

Like I said, I recognise that speeding is dangerous and that it has consequences.

 

Will you recognise that stealing is wrong and has consequences?

 

Best Regards,

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Do you still speed bob?2am,no one around,why not put your foot down,get home a little earlier on the empty roads,have you learn your lesson bob? :angel:

 

Hello,

 

No, I am as careful as I possibly can be when I drive because I understand that speeding is dangerous and wrong. Yep I got done for doing thirty five in a thirty and it's a fair cop. I deserved the points and the fine.

 

Like I said, I recognise that speeding is dangerous and that it has consequences.

 

Will you recognise that stealing is wrong and has consequences?

 

Best Regards,

I would if I ever stole bob ;)

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I have just been trying to find a correlation between your analogy bob,taking a fish or breaking and entering to steal a firearm,its a very tenuous link indeed,so Bob,every broken any laws whatsoever?Dropped litter?Put your foot down on the motorway?I wish I was so pious :angel: Not that I poach or anything,but neither do I preach :)

 

 

I am not trying to be saint like at all, like every other normal human I get done by speed cameras etc. I just want to try and make people understand that poaching harms peoples livelihood's. Many fisheries employ young people in rural areas, often on minimum wage to help feed the fish and get the boats ready in the morning etc. These are not rich toffs, these are people who are trying to make a living doing hard graft. Poaching makes these jobs less sustainable.

.

 

I am not preaching, I am challenging an attitude that you think it is ok to steal peoples fish and trying to make you understand that it affects peoples lives and jobs. Simple as that.

 

You wouldn't break in to a gunshop to steal a rifle because you recognise it's totally unacceptable

 

Just like you recognise it's unacceptable to steal the rifle, I hope you can understand the gamekeeper/fishery managers point of view that it's unacceptable for people to steal the fish/game.

 

Best Regards

Poaching harms peoples livelihoods?You have been flashed by a speed-camera?Friend of mine was killed by a speeding driver,left his two small kids without a father,see the link?Glass house,stones,dont throw,never pays to moralise unless your squeaky clean :blink:

check mate ;)

 

That's terrible. Sorry to hear about your friend. Speeding drivers are dangerous which is why I deserved the fine and the points on my licence. I recognise that speeding is wrong and that it has consequences.

 

Will you recognise that stealing is wrong and has consequences?

 

Best Regards

stealing maybe wrong but if you had not been caught speeding would you have handed yourself in to the cops to tell them you were speeding and never speed again ,i think not .So why should a man stop poaching unless he was caught and if he is caught he deals with the consequences just like you did

 

This isn't about getting caught its about us recognising that certain activities are wrong. I believe speeding is wrong and dangerous and I do my best not to speed. I also believe stealing is wrong and has consequences. If you are willing to recognise that speeding is wrong and has consequences will you recognise that stealing is wrong and has consequences too?

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i heard say of two local lads that fished rod and line in a private local pond owned by the man who owns the estate.... anyway they caght 5 troat and took them home and someone saw them on the way home..... well the two lads ran and the guy who saw them rang the owner of the land anyway bloke told the paper that there was a gang of people roming his land and draining his fish stocks.... theres a big difference in people who take alot.... and people who take a few for there tea....

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I have just been trying to find a correlation between your analogy bob,taking a fish or breaking and entering to steal a firearm,its a very tenuous link indeed,so Bob,every broken any laws whatsoever?Dropped litter?Put your foot down on the motorway?I wish I was so pious :angel: Not that I poach or anything,but neither do I preach :)

 

 

I am not trying to be saint like at all, like every other normal human I get done by speed cameras etc. I just want to try and make people understand that poaching harms peoples livelihood's. Many fisheries employ young people in rural areas, often on minimum wage to help feed the fish and get the boats ready in the morning etc. These are not rich toffs, these are people who are trying to make a living doing hard graft. Poaching makes these jobs less sustainable.

.

 

I am not preaching, I am challenging an attitude that you think it is ok to steal peoples fish and trying to make you understand that it affects peoples lives and jobs. Simple as that.

 

You wouldn't break in to a gunshop to steal a rifle because you recognise it's totally unacceptable

 

Just like you recognise it's unacceptable to steal the rifle, I hope you can understand the gamekeeper/fishery managers point of view that it's unacceptable for people to steal the fish/game.

 

Best Regards

Poaching harms peoples livelihoods?You have been flashed by a speed-camera?Friend of mine was killed by a speeding driver,left his two small kids without a father,see the link?Glass house,stones,dont throw,never pays to moralise unless your squeaky clean :blink:

check mate ;)

 

That's terrible. Sorry to hear about your friend. Speeding drivers are dangerous which is why I deserved the fine and the points on my licence. I recognise that speeding is wrong and that it has consequences.

 

Will you recognise that stealing is wrong and has consequences?

 

Best Regards

stealing maybe wrong but if you had not been caught speeding would you have handed yourself in to the cops to tell them you were speeding and never speed again ,i think not .So why should a man stop poaching unless he was caught and if he is caught he deals with the consequences just like you did

 

This isn't about getting caught its about us recognising that certain activities are wrong. I believe speeding is wrong and dangerous and I do my best not to speed. I also believe stealing is wrong and has consequences. If you are willing to recognise that speeding is wrong and has consequences will you recognise that stealing is wrong and has consequences too?

if i stole it would be wrong and if i stole id suffer the consequences ,if ye cant do the time dont do the crime
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Everything has a consequence,you believe speeding is wrong and dangerous yet still you did it.................Why? :hmm:

 

Hi Makem,

 

Like I said I acknowledge that speeding is wrong t's dangerous. I did it because my car was doing 35 in a 30, momentary lapse of concentration - I deserved the point and the fines. No arguments

 

You are passionate in you belief that speeding is wrong because of your personal (and horrible ) experience with your friend.

 

Yet you seem to believe that stealing is perfectly acceptable???

 

Why do you think speeding is bad yet stealing is ok? That's what I can't get my head round.

 

Best Regards

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Blue trout valley are actually pink-trout in drag mate,very feminine,dont listen to those sweet syrupy murmerings,methinks chess has designs upon OUR stream valley,give him the GPS settings for the north pole or kabul or somewhere equally as interesting to a man of his fly-fishing expertise ;)

Scent,no hard feelings but stealing a water-pistol at the tender age of ten earns you an eternity stoking the fires of hades without remission :blink:

plus you will be taken to a trout fishery where you will earn a min wage feeding stock fish and geting boats ready :D
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I have just been trying to find a correlation between your analogy bob,taking a fish or breaking and entering to steal a firearm,its a very tenuous link indeed,so Bob,every broken any laws whatsoever?Dropped litter?Put your foot down on the motorway?I wish I was so pious :angel: Not that I poach or anything,but neither do I preach :)

 

 

I am not trying to be saint like at all, like every other normal human I get done by speed cameras etc. I just want to try and make people understand that poaching harms peoples livleyhoods. Many fisheries employ young people in rural areas, often on minimum wage to help feed the fish and get the boats ready in the morning etc. These are not rich toffs, these are people who are trying to make a living doing hard graft. Poaching makes these jobs less sustainable.

.

 

I am not preaching, I am challenging an attitude that you think it is ok to steal peoples fish and trying to make you understand that it affects peoples lives and jobs. Simple as that.

 

You wouldn't break in to a gunshop to steal a rifle because you recognise it's totally unacceptable

 

Just like you recognise it's unacceptable to steal the rifle, I hope you can understand the gamekeeper/fishery managers point of view that it's unacceptable for people to steal the fish/game.

 

Best Regards

i stole a water pistol when i was 10 does that count 8)

wo! not a water pistol! how long you get for that? lol

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