Coney 3 Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 This always seem's a frequently asked question, which is best for hunting and which is best for my gun??. Although certain guns like certain pellets I think this is down to trial and error and personal preferance, while the question which is more accurate for hunting purposes has also been asked before some of you may find this interesting. Mathew Manning is considered as somewhat of a prolific airgun enthusiast and writer and has given the above quandary some serious thought before putting the various airgun pellets to the test. After a simple but effective trial Mathew came to the following conclusions, shooting a .22 BSA Super Ten mounted on a bipod with the scope magnification set at 7 for all ranges, although parallex adjustments were made for each range. The BSA was zeroed at 30 meters but the brand of pellet used for the zeroing was not used in the test in order to keep things fair. Pellets were unsorted and straight from the tin, and there was a slight left to right breeze. Good quality brands of the pellet types listed above but only one brand of each. Groups were measured along the furthest distance from outer edge to outer edge. Targets were draw on a piece of A4 and a £1 coin was used as a stencil to draw circles with an outside diameter of around 26mm with a red felt tip pen. 10 Meters = Roundhead achieving 10mm groups, flathead 15mm, hollow-point 13mm, pointed 10mm, No suprises there and you would have been worried if any shape of pellet could'nt cut it at these ranges. 20 Meters = Roundhead 16mm, flathead 36mm, hollow-point 32mm, pointed 20mm, The roundheads are still holding a very tight group and the pointed pellets are doing well, the flatheads and hollow-points can now be discounted for hunting. Whatever they can achieve on impact there is no way of ensuring they'll hit the right place?. 30 Meters = Roundhead 16mm, flathead 45mm, hollow-point 42mm, pointed 42mm, In spite of the breeze, the super-consistant roundhead is shooting just as accurately as it was at 20 meters. All others are now considered useless for hunting, hollow-point and pointed are spreading unpridictably from top to bottom and left to right and all three groups have drifted badley with the wind. Although this guy dosen't tell you what pellet he is using it seem's pretty conclusive that Roundheaded pellets seem to be better than any other shape on todays market what do you think?????.....................comments always appreciated. Regards Coney. Quote Link to post
SEAN3513 7 Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 good post coney. i have tried so many different types over the years. but decent quality domed head pellets ALWAYS give the best results............which brand is down to personal preferance and what your rifle prefers. i have outstanding results with AA fields coated with napier pellet lube. but........others have tried the same combo and had poor results compared to other brands. i think what it boils down to ( in simple terms).....the domed head pellets are more aerodynamicly sound, and more consistent in manufacture compared to pointed etc. just my opinion !!!! cheers sean Quote Link to post
hiho 5 Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 i use rws superpoint and the accurate and good for hunting Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Great post Coney! Should be on the FAQ sticky. Quote Link to post
whippet08 8 Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 good post! i use air arms field(roundhead)and think there great,have used bsa high impact and find them quite inacurate Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 This always seem's a frequently asked question, which is best for hunting and which is best for my gun??. Although certain guns like certain pellets I think this is down to trial and error and personal preferance, while the question which is more accurate for hunting purposes has also been asked before some of you may find this interesting. Mathew Manning is considered as somewhat of a prolific airgun enthusiast and writer and has given the above quandary some serious thought before putting the various airgun pellets to the test. After a simple but effective trial Mathew came to the following conclusions, shooting a .22 BSA Super Ten mounted on a bipod with the scope magnification set at 7 for all ranges, although parallex adjustments were made for each range. The BSA was zeroed at 30 meters but the brand of pellet used for the zeroing was not used in the test in order to keep things fair. Pellets were unsorted and straight from the tin, and there was a slight left to right breeze. Good quality brands of the pellet types listed above but only one brand of each. Groups were measured along the furthest distance from outer edge to outer edge. Targets were draw on a piece of A4 and a £1 coin was used as a stencil to draw circles with an outside diameter of around 26mm with a red felt tip pen. 10 Meters = Roundhead achieving 10mm groups, flathead 15mm, hollow-point 13mm, pointed 10mm, No suprises there and you would have been worried if any shape of pellet could'nt cut it at these ranges. 20 Meters = Roundhead 16mm, flathead 36mm, hollow-point 32mm, pointed 20mm, The roundheads are still holding a very tight group and the pointed pellets are doing well, the flatheads and hollow-points can now be discounted for hunting. Whatever they can achieve on impact there is no way of ensuring they'll hit the right place?. 30 Meters = Roundhead 16mm, flathead 45mm, hollow-point 42mm, pointed 42mm, In spite of the breeze, the super-consistant roundhead is shooting just as accurately as it was at 20 meters. All others are now considered useless for hunting, hollow-point and pointed are spreading unpridictably from top to bottom and left to right and all three groups have drifted badley with the wind. Although this guy dosen't tell you what pellet he is using it seem's pretty conclusive that Roundheaded pellets seem to be better than any other shape on todays market what do you think?????.....................comments always appreciated. Regards Coney. Fair comment... but anyone with even a small amount of experience knows domed perform best overall by a mile....good to have a little detail... BUT you forgot to mention this was lifted straight out of the latest edition of the BASC magazine!!! Quote Link to post
Guest buster321c Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Today i are been using mostly superdomes Quote Link to post
andy s410c 61 Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 AA Field .22 for me when i had my R7 in the mid 90,s i used Superdomes a very good pellet however the AA Field just has that extra couple of grains for more impact Quote Link to post
Coney 3 Posted June 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 This always seem's a frequently asked question, which is best for hunting and which is best for my gun??. Although certain guns like certain pellets I think this is down to trial and error and personal preferance, while the question which is more accurate for hunting purposes has also been asked before some of you may find this interesting. Mathew Manning is considered as somewhat of a prolific airgun enthusiast and writer and has given the above quandary some serious thought before putting the various airgun pellets to the test. After a simple but effective trial Mathew came to the following conclusions, shooting a .22 BSA Super Ten mounted on a bipod with the scope magnification set at 7 for all ranges, although parallex adjustments were made for each range. The BSA was zeroed at 30 meters but the brand of pellet used for the zeroing was not used in the test in order to keep things fair. Pellets were unsorted and straight from the tin, and there was a slight left to right breeze. Good quality brands of the pellet types listed above but only one brand of each. Groups were measured along the furthest distance from outer edge to outer edge. Targets were draw on a piece of A4 and a £1 coin was used as a stencil to draw circles with an outside diameter of around 26mm with a red felt tip pen. 10 Meters = Roundhead achieving 10mm groups, flathead 15mm, hollow-point 13mm, pointed 10mm, No suprises there and you would have been worried if any shape of pellet could'nt cut it at these ranges. 20 Meters = Roundhead 16mm, flathead 36mm, hollow-point 32mm, pointed 20mm, The roundheads are still holding a very tight group and the pointed pellets are doing well, the flatheads and hollow-points can now be discounted for hunting. Whatever they can achieve on impact there is no way of ensuring they'll hit the right place?. 30 Meters = Roundhead 16mm, flathead 45mm, hollow-point 42mm, pointed 42mm, In spite of the breeze, the super-consistant roundhead is shooting just as accurately as it was at 20 meters. All others are now considered useless for hunting, hollow-point and pointed are spreading unpridictably from top to bottom and left to right and all three groups have drifted badley with the wind. Although this guy dosen't tell you what pellet he is using it seem's pretty conclusive that Roundheaded pellets seem to be better than any other shape on todays market what do you think?????.....................comments always appreciated. Regards Coney. Fair comment... but anyone with even a small amount of experience knows domed perform best overall by a mile....good to have a little detail... BUT you forgot to mention this was lifted straight out of the latest edition of the BASC magazine!!! Here is me thinking the idea of this forum was to pass on usefull pieces of information to those who are new to the sport or have what you describe as " small amounts of experiance"... as for the original post yes it was taken from the latest edition of BASC but did I plagiarize this in any way and pass it off as my own work ??....I think not. It appears we may all benifit from your greater knowledge on the sport Decker so please be my guest and let the learning curve begin!!!! Yours in awe Coney. Quote Link to post
stillair1 16 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Rounds every time. Flats will loose speed very quickly over a distance. Points don't have a good a a bc as rounds and can self steer if the point is off centre or damaged. The less knocks your pellets have the tighter the groups. What look like unmarked pellets that have been rattling about in your pocket will group substantially large than those fresh from a tin. Neil Quote Link to post
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Easy fellas! The shit ain't worth dying over. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) This always seem's a frequently asked question, which is best for hunting and which is best for my gun??. Although certain guns like certain pellets I think this is down to trial and error and personal preferance, while the question which is more accurate for hunting purposes has also been asked before some of you may find this interesting. Mathew Manning is considered as somewhat of a prolific airgun enthusiast and writer and has given the above quandary some serious thought before putting the various airgun pellets to the test. After a simple but effective trial Mathew came to the following conclusions, shooting a .22 BSA Super Ten mounted on a bipod with the scope magnification set at 7 for all ranges, although parallex adjustments were made for each range. The BSA was zeroed at 30 meters but the brand of pellet used for the zeroing was not used in the test in order to keep things fair. Pellets were unsorted and straight from the tin, and there was a slight left to right breeze. Good quality brands of the pellet types listed above but only one brand of each. Groups were measured along the furthest distance from outer edge to outer edge. Targets were draw on a piece of A4 and a £1 coin was used as a stencil to draw circles with an outside diameter of around 26mm with a red felt tip pen. 10 Meters = Roundhead achieving 10mm groups, flathead 15mm, hollow-point 13mm, pointed 10mm, No suprises there and you would have been worried if any shape of pellet could'nt cut it at these ranges. 20 Meters = Roundhead 16mm, flathead 36mm, hollow-point 32mm, pointed 20mm, The roundheads are still holding a very tight group and the pointed pellets are doing well, the flatheads and hollow-points can now be discounted for hunting. Whatever they can achieve on impact there is no way of ensuring they'll hit the right place?. 30 Meters = Roundhead 16mm, flathead 45mm, hollow-point 42mm, pointed 42mm, In spite of the breeze, the super-consistant roundhead is shooting just as accurately as it was at 20 meters. All others are now considered useless for hunting, hollow-point and pointed are spreading unpridictably from top to bottom and left to right and all three groups have drifted badley with the wind. Although this guy dosen't tell you what pellet he is using it seem's pretty conclusive that Roundheaded pellets seem to be better than any other shape on todays market what do you think?????.....................comments always appreciated. Regards Coney. Fair comment... but anyone with even a small amount of experience knows domed perform best overall by a mile....good to have a little detail... BUT you forgot to mention this was lifted straight out of the latest edition of the BASC magazine!!! . Here is me thinking the idea of this forum was to pass on usefull pieces of information to those who are new to the sport or have what you describe as " small amounts of experiance"... as for the original post yes it was taken from the latest edition of BASC but did I plagiarize this in any way and pass it off as my own work ??....I think not. It appears we may all benifit from your greater knowledge on the sport Decker so please be my guest and let the learning curve begin!!!! Yours in awe Coney. [/qupreferenceote] Flippin 'ek, misses got you on rations or what??? Steady on Coney...no need to crawl that low Yep you are right.. many will.. and already have benefitted from my experience...just as I have benefitted from others..and no; I don't know it all and I'm still learning, but I have forgotten more than most here know.... so if you have any questions or need some help feel free to ask. But don't go all girlie on me when I tell you straight! The article in question is designed to fill magazine space, most of the "detail" in it is superfluous to most people as all barrels are different and we all have different requirements from our guns. It is also very unscientific and only uses one gun! But, comes to the conclusion, as I said, "anyone with even a small amount of experience knows domed perform best" NOBODY will be able to replicate these specific results as the circumstances cannot be replicated. They are a generalisation. The question..."WHICH PELLETS ARE BEST?" The Answer "Domed" End of! But you need to try a few to see what suits your gun best. Didn't fill too many pages in a magazine though did it! Always happy to help. Edited June 28, 2008 by Deker Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Edited June 29, 2008 by CHALKWARREN Quote Link to post
Edgar 1 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 This is only my experience with my own gun but I find flatheads to be very accurate. The flatheads I use are RWS hobbys and find them good to about 35 yards and very hard hitting. I have used many good brands of domed pellets but like flatheads best. Just my own experience and opinion. Quote Link to post
LOGUNSOLO177 0 Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Good post coney!!! Interesting read!! Quote Link to post
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