ray smith 1966 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hi MY name is Ray Smith named after my father the original owner of smithy (hence the name).After reading a book a couple of weeks back on patterdales I was very surprised how other people had taken the glory for a dog that was worked by my dad,I will be speaking to him over the next couple of weeks and hopefully be able to give a more detailed account of smithy's early career. Thanks Ray Quote Link to post
trader 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 HiMY name is Ray Smith named after my father the original owner of smithy (hence the name).After reading a book a couple of weeks back on patterdales I was very surprised how other people had taken the glory for a dog that was worked by my dad,I will be speaking to him over the next couple of weeks and hopefully be able to give a more detailed account of smithy's early career. Thanks Ray hell of a dog JET X GRIP bred by didriksen one of the most influential sires of all time, be good to hear some more about him welcome to the site ray Quote Link to post
Limb 31 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I'll look forward to it Ray, nice one. Quote Link to post
top terrierman 90 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 be nice to here more about that famous terrier and what he was like why did your father sell him Quote Link to post
waz77 15 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I think i have a mate who knows you Ray,welcome to the site! Quote Link to post
ray smith 1966 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 be nice to here more about that famous terrier and what he was like why did your father sell him Hi again,many thanks for the interest,Iknow one thing for sure was that my dad was given the ultimation it was either the dogs,ferrets and pole cat or my mother and 5 kids. Happy Days Ray Quote Link to post
ray smith 1966 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I think i have a mate who knows you Ray,welcome to the site! Hi would that be Rob from Hornchurch, Essex? Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 you mean the smithy that gouldy made famous ? Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 HiMY name is Ray Smith named after my father the original owner of smithy (hence the name).After reading a book a couple of weeks back on patterdales I was very surprised how other people had taken the glory for a dog that was worked by my dad,I will be speaking to him over the next couple of weeks and hopefully be able to give a more detailed account of smithy's early career. Thanks Ray With all due respect Ray, that dog has been almost drowning in its own publicity in life and since its death. So many things have been written over the years about it's breeding, life and work, that if you can 'honestly' clarify, it would put so many things to bed. Ha! You may turn a few on their head..... Just a question, 1966, i'm sure your Y.O.B.... and you have 'just' read sommat about this dog?? Quote Link to post
keg 1 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 i had the same ultimtion with my wife thats why im on number 2 Quote Link to post
trader 0 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 you mean the smithy that gouldy made famous ? he was already a very accomplished working terrier by the time ken got it Quote Link to post
Guest gaz100604 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 i had the same ultimtion with my wife thats why im on number 2 i like your style Quote Link to post
dessy b 3 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 keg learn to spell you gimp Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 you mean the smithy that gouldy made famous ? he was already a very accomplished working terrier by the time ken got it did i say otherwise ? Quote Link to post
Guest johnD Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 well talkin of smithy i know a few great terriermen from ireland that travelled to gouldys many years ago to see the dog work but when they got there ken declined in bringing the dog for a dig and instead wanted to go to the pub and talk about the dog rather than letting the men see em under the sodd one of the lads in question told me that when they examined the dog he didnt show much signs of havein been worked hard but ken told them the dog was as hard as iron in the way he worked.im not in anyway running the dog down in this post im just stateing a true story because when i was told it many years ago it just always has stuck in my memory.the terriers in my kennell have lines back to smithy but they have been diluted as time goes by with old nuttall lines.as i said earlier im not running the dog down in anyway i never witnessed the dog on a dig or in the flesh but wasnt it made known that he was a half nuttall bred dog???? Quote Link to post
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