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[mC HULL 18,774]

3 hours ago, mel b said:

How does having standards and integrity make me sound like a teacher mc ?. I'd disagree with many teachers , and the left wing nonsense that they spout.

I'd say that the decent people of the country are waking up , but the feckless are just getting away with more and more.

At some point it'll have to stop . It just can't carry on the way it is at the moment. 

When the money eventually runs out , those feckless long term doley types will just starve to death , but the decent folks , that know how to get up on time and go do a hard day's graft , will survive.

The same teachers trained and programmed you   to be how you are guess what mate they are the same ones indoctrinating the left wing shite on our youth 

[WILF 53,587]

55 minutes ago, mel b said:

I must confess that I'm totally torn between farage and Lowe.  

I want Lowe.  He's saying exactly what I'm thinking , but that's tempered by the fact that , at the moment,  he hasn't got a prayer.  I honestly believed that Nigel farage was the man to set the country straight , but just look what the f****r has gone and done .

On one hand , I can waste (at the moment)my support on Rupert Lowe,  or , I can throw my support behind farage , and just hope that he does what he keeps promising,  and just hope that he's doing what he's doing , so that he can get himself into a position where he can improve things.

For me, immigration isn't about skin colour , it's about standards , and behaviour.  Let's be brutally honest,  the vast majority of immigrants , are little more than savages .

I have no problem whatsoever with genuine refugees , but I have a f***ing huge problem with some somali pirate that makes his way here on a dinghy,  then goes on to rape and steal , while I'm paying for the animal to live in a hotel.

I’m not going to mention again about voting for Reform in this thread mate because I’m about as popular as a fart in a spacesuit on too many threads about it already.

Going back to standards, we know there has always been an “underclass” for want of a better expression, Hogarth was painting a series about just that in the 1700s with his “Rakes Progress” series……so, I’m not suggesting we would could do away with all people who have very little standards…

But I think it obvious we have definitely lowered the bar.

Back on the subject of time keeping it is a bit of a British thing, like you won’t  find too many people here arriving early for anything…..drives me mental, everything is a f**k about and that completely cultural. 

 

 

[Blackmag 6,971]

Mc you know the saying you can feed a bad dog for the same price as a good one and you wouldn't keep a bad one like you can pay a lazy unreliable man the same as a good one when you're working or managing teams with lads relying on each other one lazy or bad time keeper can soon sour the barrel mc wether that's on site or a pitch a decent man manager will soon bin them off and rightly 
 So if I'm Good enough to set of earlier than normal to pick someone up and there not there then there getting left one minute after agreed time every time 

[mC HULL 18,774]

18 hours ago, Blackmag said:

Mc you know the saying you can feed a bad dog for the same price as a good one and you wouldn't keep a bad one like you can pay a lazy unreliable man the same as a good one when you're working or managing teams with lads relying on each other one lazy or bad time keeper can soon sour the barrel mc wether that's on site or a pitch a decent man manager will soon bin them off and rightly 
 So if I'm Good enough to set of earlier than normal to pick someone up and there not there then there getting left one minute after agreed time every time 

for me it depends on the person if hes a character what he brings to the table mate 

 

your scenario you dont grass him just explain this is expected you cant do it f**k off 

 

but i go to work somewere the divvy thinks he is running a military operation like most with a bit a power do lol then im having some fun 

 

 

[WILF 53,587]

39 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

for me it depends on the person if hes a character what he brings to the table mate 

 

your scenario you dont grass him just explain this is expected you cant do it f**k off 

 

but i go to work somewere the divvy thinks he is running a military operation like most with a bit a power do lol then im having some fun 

 

 

Depends what he is getting on your case for ?

Like if it’s just pathetic, nerdy stuff that is of absolutely no consequence to any outcomes then that’s one thing.

But if it’s stuff like time keeping, keep sloping off for a doss, f***ing about on your phone, moving at a snails pace, always looking to cheat out….things you control and that do matter then why even give people like that the satisfaction ?…..just be in front of the bloke all the time, be better than him…..can’t say f**k all then. 
Like in a way, work is a military operation, nobody is there for the benefit of their health, everyone would rather be home with their family so get the f**k on with it and get the money earned and get it done and get the f**k out of there…..who the f**k wants to be talking to a load of gonks on site or in an office or in a factory longer than they have too ?

Its one of the reasons I never paid an hourly rate and I loathe hourly rates and the “set” times that inevitably go with them….it just encourages all the very worst out of people, there no incentive…..

My lads got a day rate, if it took them 2 hours or 10 hours they got the day rate…..if it dragged on through no fault of their own then they got extra but let me tell you, if a lad can earn 8 hours money in 2 hours you see him apply himself then !!

You don’t need to tell people anything, everyone is focused on the same task, earn your money, so the job well so there’s no extra time f***ing about and get out of there…..

[mel b 5,010]

8 minutes ago, WILF said:

Depends what he is getting on your case for ?

Like if it’s just pathetic, nerdy stuff that is of absolutely no consequence to any outcomes then that’s one thing.

But if it’s stuff like time keeping, keep sloping off for a doss, f***ing about on your phone, moving at a snails pace, always looking to cheat out….things you control and that do matter then why even give people like that the satisfaction ?…..just be in front of the bloke all the time, be better than him…..can’t say f**k all then. 
Like in a way, work is a military operation, nobody is there for the benefit of their health, everyone would rather be home with their family so get the f**k on with it and get the money earned and get it done and get the f**k out of there…..who the f**k wants to be talking to a load of gonks on site or in an office or in a factory longer than they have too ?

Its one of the reasons I never paid an hourly rate and I loathe hourly rates and the “set” times that inevitably go with them….it just encourages all the very worst out of people, there no incentive…..

My lads got a day rate, if it took them 2 hours or 10 hours they got the day rate…..if it dragged on through no fault of their own then they got extra but let me tell you, if a lad can earn 8 hours money in 2 hours you see him apply himself then !!

You don’t need to tell people anything, everyone is focused on the same task, earn your money, so the job well so there’s no extra time f***ing about and get out of there…..

This .  Completely and utterly 100 percent. 

We used to be task and finish at work , and f**k me you should see the lads graft . They were like f***ing maniacs .

Everyone was pulling in the same direction,  and it was a fantastic environment to work in . Every hour you manage to win , is like a lottery win.

We're hourly paid workers now , and once you've finished your work , you have to go and do some other fuckers work who turned up late , or broke down . It's a f***ing awful environment to work in. It's completely toxic , because nobody wants to pick up the slack from some lazy c**t , so they drag there heels as well , so they don't have to do it.

A bloke on task and finish , will double his work rate.

[Blackmag 6,971]

25 minutes ago, WILF said:

Depends what he is getting on your case for ?

Like if it’s just pathetic, nerdy stuff that is of absolutely no consequence to any outcomes then that’s one thing.

But if it’s stuff like time keeping, keep sloping off for a doss, f***ing about on your phone, moving at a snails pace, always looking to cheat out….things you control and that do matter then why even give people like that the satisfaction ?…..just be in front of the bloke all the time, be better than him…..can’t say f**k all then. 
Like in a way, work is a military operation, nobody is there for the benefit of their health, everyone would rather be home with their family so get the f**k on with it and get the money earned and get it done and get the f**k out of there…..who the f**k wants to be talking to a load of gonks on site or in an office or in a factory longer than they have too ?

Its one of the reasons I never paid an hourly rate and I loathe hourly rates and the “set” times that inevitably go with them….it just encourages all the very worst out of people, there no incentive…..

My lads got a day rate, if it took them 2 hours or 10 hours they got the day rate…..if it dragged on through no fault of their own then they got extra but let me tell you, if a lad can earn 8 hours money in 2 hours you see him apply himself then !!

You don’t need to tell people anything, everyone is focused on the same task, earn your money, so the job well so there’s no extra time f***ing about and get out of there…..

I totally agree day rate is what I do or I get a price for the full job to be done if it's a week or more it's down to them then but if I have lads working with me I want to get done and gone asap I don't have time for lads being late or no shows usually Monday morning that one and they keep there phone in there pocket  

[WILF 53,587]

21 minutes ago, mel b said:

This .  Completely and utterly 100 percent. 

We used to be task and finish at work , and f**k me you should see the lads graft . They were like f***ing maniacs .

Everyone was pulling in the same direction,  and it was a fantastic environment to work in . Every hour you manage to win , is like a lottery win.

We're hourly paid workers now , and once you've finished your work , you have to go and do some other fuckers work who turned up late , or broke down . It's a f***ing awful environment to work in. It's completely toxic , because nobody wants to pick up the slack from some lazy c**t , so they drag there heels as well , so they don't have to do it.

A bloke on task and finish , will double his work rate.

It’s why I cringe when you see some politicians going in about workers “rights”…..like, don’t get me wrong nobody wants to see people abused but in my Experince abuse people and you lose them so nobody wants that anyway…..but what a lot of this employment law has done is actually hamstring good people and the great outcomes they historically achieved.

Like it don’t matter if a man stacks shelves or runs a conglomerate….his job matters in the wider world, it’s all a piece of the puzzle.

As you start to make one thing at a time wank then the whole thing breaks down….as we have seen in Britain and as we witnessed in the former Soviet Union with their socialist collective thinking.

Everything is a box ticking, marking time excercise rather than actually f***ing achieving things…..it strangles people and it strangles the nation.

jmho of course. 

[WILF 53,587]

6 minutes ago, Blackmag said:

I totally agree day rate is what I do or I get a price for the full job to be done if it's a week or more it's down to them then but if I have lads working with me I want to get done and gone asap I don't have time for lads being late or no shows usually Monday morning that one and they keep there phone in there pocket  

What you tend to find is mate, the lads have no time for pricks either….they police themselves in that regard.

The times we may have got a new bloke and after a few days the lads won’t even talk to him or are bollocking him or taking me aside and saying “Here, this dudes a prick, f**k him off” 

[mC HULL 18,774]

40 minutes ago, WILF said:

Depends what he is getting on your case for ?

Like if it’s just pathetic, nerdy stuff that is of absolutely no consequence to any outcomes then that’s one thing.

But if it’s stuff like time keeping, keep sloping off for a doss, f***ing about on your phone, moving at a snails pace, always looking to cheat out….things you control and that do matter then why even give people like that the satisfaction ?…..just be in front of the bloke all the time, be better than him…..can’t say f**k all then. 
Like in a way, work is a military operation, nobody is there for the benefit of their health, everyone would rather be home with their family so get the f**k on with it and get the money earned and get it done and get the f**k out of there…..who the f**k wants to be talking to a load of gonks on site or in an office or in a factory longer than they have too ?

Its one of the reasons I never paid an hourly rate and I loathe hourly rates and the “set” times that inevitably go with them….it just encourages all the very worst out of people, there no incentive…..

My lads got a day rate, if it took them 2 hours or 10 hours they got the day rate…..if it dragged on through no fault of their own then they got extra but let me tell you, if a lad can earn 8 hours money in 2 hours you see him apply himself then !!

You don’t need to tell people anything, everyone is focused on the same task, earn your money, so the job well so there’s no extra time f***ing about and get out of there…..

What i said and was trying to say mate to gm your paid 12 hours but you can do the same work in 9 then good bosses see this allow it the more perks like that the better tou graft some.incentive 

 

Them. Lazy ones need 5 shits a day phone smokes i just have a laugh with like yesterday putting one on the 25 kg  breakwr all day on comcrete fence posts why you have the lad that trys on the  tip.runs collecting stuff with you  

Then laugh at the moaning the grunt groans the theatrics a lazy c**t does i laugh all day lol

[Bakerboy 4,977]

Always job and knock with me and the regular gangs know it, if I'm travelling 2 hours to site and back last thing I want is to be stuck there all fckn night.

When my boy first started with me he was late twice had to wait for him to get out the door, 3rd time I drove past his pick up point, half hour later he was on the phone asking where I was, he lost the shift and that was the last time he was late

Edited yesterday at 07:46 by Bakerboy

[Blackmag 6,971]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

but i go to work somewere the divvy thinks he is running a military operation like most with a bit a power do lol then im having some fun 

 

That's called organization mc most job and knocks would be fecked without it yes some get power crazy but a good man manager that gives lads a few perks now and again when he can what ever they may be like not keeping them there till the last minute and letting them go early when they are finished and gets on with the lads will get more out of them than someone they don't like and gives nothing back 

[Bakerboy 4,977]

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Edited yesterday at 07:56 by Bakerboy

[Bakerboy 4,977]

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[mel b 5,010]

23 minutes ago, Bakerboy said:

Always job and knock with me and the regular gangs know it, if I'm travelling 2 hours to site and back last thing I want is to be stuck there all fckn night.

When my boy first started with me he was late twice had to wait for him to get out the door, 3rd time I drove past his pick up point, half hour later he was on the phone asking where I was, he lost the shift and that was the last time he was late

It's the best way to teach them BB.

My kids were always told that I'd support them financially while they were in full time education,  but if they weren't in a job or college when they left school , they'd be working on the back of my bin truck . The only difference between them and the other lads , is that they wouldn't be getting paid . Being on the dole and laying in bed all day , was never ever going to be one of the options for them.

My lad dropped out of college after a couple of years , and he hadn't got another job sorted . I'd get him up at 5am every morning before I went to work , and he had to sit on the back yard , chopping kindling until I got home , then I'd take him to deliver it .

He f***ing hated me for it at the time , but now that he's a 30 year old homeowner , he gets it.